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England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

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I don't recognise the location as not had your model, but that build up of gunk in the big pipe to the right doesn't look good...!!? Pete
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toby1



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Standard stuff for an EGR-equipped TDV8. 2012 Vogue TDV8 in Aintree green over sand

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It is really testing me, this car. Ignition on and now it won't crank at all, not even a click. More searching... 2012 Vogue TDV8 in Aintree green over sand

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Right, I was being a numpty and not for the first time. I did not press down on the brake pedal enough which the manual does mention 'in certain conditions' should be firmer. Ignition on for 60 seconds to prime and then crank.

10 cranks later it still will not fully catch, then the restricted performance warning lit up again.

Rewind and re-group: I have just changed a fuel pipe and a sensor on the LH fuel rail.

There is no fuel leaking. Could it be that I have not correctly torqued the union nuts and it is letting in air? The manual specifies 10Nm + 80º or is air coming in via the new sensor? - no fuel leak here though.

I do not have a spanner/torque wrench attachment to measure torque on a nut so as the pipe is not expensive I will order another one and seek a tool to do the job. 2012 Vogue TDV8 in Aintree green over sand

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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Santorini Black

Wow, I have just read through all 9 pages, you have the patience of a saint and hats off to you for being brave enough to tackle so many jobs. The best of luck getting this back on the road and useable daily. 2012 4.4 TDV8 Vogue Santorini black ivory leather

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Another play today. I have not been able to make SDD work with the Mongoose cable, as expected. However, I did update the firmware in my cheapy code reader and that connected OK. Why did I not do that earlier?

Same as before, cranks, briefly catches and dies immediately. Then restricted performance displays.

The fuel rail pressure before crank is around 248 bar rising to around 300 bar on cranking. According to the WM it must be at least 150 bar to allow a start - no issue there then.


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I found one code: P065A$07E8 generator system peformace which appears to be related to the alternator but I fail to see how that is connected to not starting - I have cleared it. The battery is now on charge and I will check it later before it is dark.


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Post #706944 15th Dec 2024 2:23pm
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Reconnected the battery and no codes in the reader but now it says DPF full on the dash.

It hates me, doesn't it? I mean really hates me. 2012 Vogue TDV8 in Aintree green over sand

Post #706957 15th Dec 2024 3:55pm
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I think the next step in this palaver is to carry out the TSB regarding the fuel pressure sensor harness mod. Mine does not have it. Without any meaningful codes to go on I am clutching at straws somewhat but it does not look too bad a job, even for me.

The DPF warning is yellow, so not beyond the possible - yet! 2012 Vogue TDV8 in Aintree green over sand

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The modified harness, 3 connectors and the 4 studs that rounded holding the TB bracket ordered from Marshall for delivery tomorrow. All cheaper than the eBay sellers even at retail. 2012 Vogue TDV8 in Aintree green over sand

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I managed to achieve a little at lunchtime. I know this isn't going to be the issue but for the sake of £40-ish it's worth spending to rule it out.

New harness ready for connection in and conduit removed from the engine harness.



The old one was a bit broken but it ran before as this.

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I found a post by Woody (of the secret garage) where he had very similar symptoms and after a low pressure pump (parts darts?), a high pressure pump fixed it. That is what I am expecting now. 2012 Vogue TDV8 in Aintree green over sand

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As expected, the modified harness has made no difference but I don't appear to have introduced a new problem. There are no codes stored on my Autel reader.

I spent a few hours last night trawling this and other fora and I think the next stage is to check more of the fuel system. Correct fuel pressure before crank does not mean enough pressure to idle, from what I can tell. Today I had 279 bar with the ignition on before crank.

Therefore fuel return, fuel filter, fuel tank, secondary pump, etc, etc are all in need of checks.

With the Xmas break quickly approaching, some travel to other parts, general relaxation and low enthusiam for this thing currently, I think I will postpone any more work until the new year. I have a second pair of hands in mind to assist but he doesn't know it yet. 2012 Vogue TDV8 in Aintree green over sand

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