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coopss

Member Since: 21 Apr 2018
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 281

Anyone know whether the rear seat heaters use the same parts? 1995 4.6 v8, green/tan (long gone)
2005 4.8iS X5, blue/black
2011 4.4 tdv8, black/black (gone)
2003 3.0d X5, Oxford green/black/manual
2021 p575 SVR, BR green/vintage tan

21st Dec 2020 7:00pm

TeeMyob

Member Since: 22 Jun 2019
Location: Javea/Manchester/Abu Dhabi
Posts: 200

2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Zermatt Silver

Re: Climate Seats Fixed

tj2k wrote:
I'd been following this thread with interest (& other similar threads elsewhere) with a view to fixing my seats. I've just bought my car, it has a 3 month warranty and the dealer is covering the faults it had pre-purchase (this being one of them). The problem being that he didn't want me to take it to a dealer to diagnose and fix them because he's underwriting the cost of the warranty himself. I'm not the type to make the job unnecessarily expensive - so I'm working through its issues myself (but I've spent well over a grand now & I've covered the labour myself - which seems wrong!?).

Anyway, I want it sorted so I can just get on & enjoy the car rather than faffing about fixing locks, seats, brakes, the battery etc etc.

So, here's what I found when I finally removed my drivers seat. The ducting of the pelter cell / seat-back motor had indeed, well & truly cracked - with a whole piece having fallen out (which I fished out from below). This art is designed to flex when the seat back is moved. Clearly, over time the plastic starts getting brittle - hence it cracks & breaks apart.

I've now replaced the part, having taken a chance and ordered it from a Land Rover Dealer. It now works perfectly (it's an expensive part & a royal pain to lift the seat out as the seat weighs a tonne). Owing tot he air-bag, I disconnected the battery too (& allowed it to stand 20+mins before disconnecting).

That said, the seat does not *need* to be removed - but it is definitely easier to do if the seat is out of the car.

I'd accidentally cut my hand whilst doing the job (you can imagine the language ) so was bleeding everywhere - consequently, I didn't take many pictures but what I did take - are hopefully good enough:

This is the seat when I first opened it up! See the seat motor ducting!?

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This is a closer pic:

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Another:

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This is the faulty part after it had been removed:

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By the way, this is what my car was bleating about before it was fixed:

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What did you use to get that fault code please?

26th Dec 2020 1:50pm

Tomc

Member Since: 15 Oct 2020
Location: Belfast
Posts: 37

2010 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Barolo Black

Heated seat repaired

Hi all.

After looking through this feed I removed my seat back heat unit. I noticed there was quite a lot of cracking at one end. I decided to try a repair. So mixed some epoxy resin and covered all cracks. When dry I applied some good quality tape for good measure.
I re fitted the unit and to my amazement it worked!!
I must have caught it early enough before any long-term damage was done. Thanks to all.
T

11th Jan 2021 9:59pm

Justin_Sherfy

Member Since: 23 Dec 2019
Location: Washington State
Posts: 8

That’s really cool you were able to fix it. 2012 HSE 5.0 V8

12th Jan 2021 3:27am

JNC

Member Since: 23 Feb 2020
Location: UK
Posts: 292

2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Nara Bronze

Re: Heated seat repaired

Tomc wrote:
Hi all.

After looking through this feed I removed my seat back heat unit. I noticed there was quite a lot of cracking at one end. I decided to try a repair. So mixed some epoxy resin and covered all cracks. When dry I applied some good quality tape for good measure.
I re fitted the unit and to my amazement it worked!!
I must have caught it early enough before any long-term damage was done. Thanks to all.
T

I had similar experience. It lasted a few months before failing completely. Might be worth keeping an eye out for replacement and grabbing a bargain before you need one.

13th Jan 2021 6:06pm

Tomc

Member Since: 15 Oct 2020
Location: Belfast
Posts: 37

Yeah thinking the same thing tbh.
Cheers. T

13th Jan 2021 11:17pm

KDavies3

Member Since: 03 Jun 2020
Location: South Wales
Posts: 4

2007 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Barolo Black

Russian Peltier unit fitted and Working

Hi All,
following the failure of my drivers heated seat, I discovered this and many other threads on the subject.
Firstly thanks to all the previous contributors for the help and advice.

Anyway, when I removed my seat back panel (seat removal not necessary as already stated by others).
I found the ducting badly spit and cracked, this I repaired / patched up using a hot glue gun.
I refitted the unit just to try it but still no fan or heat.
Resolving that the Peltier had gone west and being too tight to pay £250 for a new complete unit, I decided to give the Russian Ebay Peltier supplier a go.
My part no. matched one on his list so I thought I'd risk ordering one.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peltier-element...2749.l2649

Others had commented that the unit supplied was slightly bigger than the original one.
I can confirm that it is by about 2-3mm in width.
After scratching my head for a bit and avoiding the temptation to try and squash it in, I thought about plastic surgery on the housing.
By this I mean cutting away the sides where foul with the sides of the new Peltier.
You need to cut away the sides on both halves of the Peltier housing.
Hopefully my pictures will make it clear?
As the Peltier is wrapped in a sponge like material I figured it wouldn't leak out to much if at all.
So I set to with a Stanley knife and a Dremel and cut away the sides to allow the fitment of the new Peltier.

So having fitted it into the case (minus the sides) I then sealed the gaps with the trusty hot glue gun.
Spliced in the wires having marked them up first to make sure that they were connected correctly.
The unit was reassembled and fitted back into the seat.
I'm pleased to say that I now have a fully working heated seat.
I haven't tried cooling as it's cold outside.

I really hope this helps others.
I've also recently replaced my Sat Nav antenna and reversing camera (both with generic Ebay replacements about £10 each.

17th Feb 2021 3:35pm

lostinespace

Member Since: 19 Nov 2020
Location: Herts
Posts: 59

2009 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Zambezi Silver

Thank you for the write up, really appreciated. Anyone know if I can get the back of the seat in situ for 2009 facelift? 2009 TDV8 3.6

17th Feb 2021 10:16pm

KDavies3

Member Since: 03 Jun 2020
Location: South Wales
Posts: 4

I don't know what the difference is in the 2009 upgrade is is I would imagine it's very similar to mine at 2007.
I followed the guide posted earlier in this thread.

18th Feb 2021 12:28pm

lostinespace

Member Since: 19 Nov 2020
Location: Herts
Posts: 59

Thanks! 2009 TDV8 3.6

18th Feb 2021 1:02pm

lostinespace

Member Since: 19 Nov 2020
Location: Herts
Posts: 59

Brilliant thanks for everyone who has contributed just got my heated/cooled seat working on my facelift. Tips for getting the seat back off, the back pulls down once you have squeezed the bottom side tabs out over the metal pole. This is quite tricky I just used a long screwdriver from the bottom by the centre console. I nearly removed the seats after seeing Sam's Motors and Machines video yesterday, glad I didn't. I couldn't get the heater out without a bit more work, I just gaffer taped the 2" split works perfectly.

Fitting the seat back was easier. 2009 TDV8 3.6

7th Jun 2021 3:24pm

jonty88

Member Since: 04 May 2021
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 5

2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Baltic Blue

Has the novel repair stood the test of time?

19th Jun 2021 9:37am

lostinespace

Member Since: 19 Nov 2020
Location: Herts
Posts: 59

Still working cooled seats great in the heat. 2009 TDV8 3.6

19th Jun 2021 9:39am

misfire84

Member Since: 25 Nov 2020
Location: brecon becons
Posts: 37

2012 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Santorini Black

well done i am taking the plunge and ordering two of those heating units from ebay ready for the cold of the winter ! 2012 Black 4.4 TDV8
1968 Mgb Gt

19th Jun 2021 12:04pm

JNC

Member Since: 23 Feb 2020
Location: UK
Posts: 292

Have a look on my post in other section.
We have a group buy on full repair kits for these.

Replaces the plastic part too.

25th Jun 2021 8:54pm

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