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RRUK Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jun 2007 Location: UK Posts: 6373 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Wow, so positive! Everybody assumes Defenders are just simple and mechanical but the 2007 onwards Puma models have been hysterically unreliable, making the previous TD5 models incredibly popular as a result. All cars can be unreliable, and the only thing you can do is buy smart and look after it. My brother had a VW Golf that cost more to run and keep than my RR at the time, so go figure. I'm happy with it so that's all that matters. Discovery 4 HSE 1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF 1982 Series 3 Hard Top *Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB |
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CEEGEE Member Since: 20 Mar 2013 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 685 ![]() ![]() |
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Cam-Tech-Craig Member Since: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 16312 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Ahh, BUT, Nick... Both Adam & I have late generation 322’s and my wifey has a facelifted D3 so i get to drive it often... The later model 322 is a further step on from the 3.6 in terms of comfort, power, refinement of ride etc etc... Im not so sure you would feel the same way about D3’s if you drove a last of the line 322 for a while sir |
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Mactech Member Since: 27 Jun 2015 Location: Biddulph Posts: 126 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Good call! |
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RRUK Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jun 2007 Location: UK Posts: 6373 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Mactech,
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jez000 Member Since: 17 Apr 2009 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 742 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Looks good |
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Mactech Member Since: 27 Jun 2015 Location: Biddulph Posts: 126 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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RRUK Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jun 2007 Location: UK Posts: 6373 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Not really, I put a D4 style front grille on it (just waiting on the larger size black and silver oval badge to arrive to complete that one), and I changed the bonnet lettering and rear lettering and lights. A full D4 upgrade can cost up to about £7k, and I've decided not to do that, the whole point of this exercise was to have a car that cost less than the Defender, not the same, or more. I'm just doing modest cosmetic upgrades so it has had: Colour coded door handles covers, wing mirror covers, D4 style side vent, Rear tailgate handle cover and a D4 style colour coded grille. It's also has smoked side repeaters, D4 LED rear light units in black. It will at some point get a new set of 19" alloys done in the same finish as the RR (they look black but its metallic anthracite) with new General Grabber AT tyres which will improve it off road over the shooting season. I think I am more excited about this car than I was about the Defender. ![]() 1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF 1982 Series 3 Hard Top *Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB |
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Gazellio @ Prestige Cars Member Since: 22 Jan 2010 Location: Chilterns, UK Posts: 11309 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I take it your removing the steps?
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Lost for Words Member Since: 18 Jun 2015 Location: Warminster, Wiltshire Posts: 473 ![]() ![]() |
I disagree. Electrical problems aren't hugely common beyond a dodgy brake bulb or switch, or cruise control loom. You may get the occasional poor connection or chaffed wire, but the D3 electrics are very good on the whole. A few have issues with the head unit/navigation/amp etc. but they are not all that common. The ECUs don't normally fail unless there is water ingress. ![]() Discovery 3 TDV6 Auto HSE Zambezi Silver ![]() |
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n1cktdv8 Member Since: 19 Aug 2013 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1754 ![]() ![]() |
My L322 is the same 'series' as my D3 was so it's a like for like scenario. If I drove a newer 322 with a 4.4 OR A 5.0 I'm sure there you're right and I'd see a difference but what if it were like for like and we compared to a later D4 with the SDV6 3.0?.... I'm just not feeling the love at the moment with mine, a weekend of 2 buckets and some nice polish will sort my head out ![]() |
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RRUK Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jun 2007 Location: UK Posts: 6373 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Had not planned this yet Gaz, as the type of off roading it will do it not that severe. I doubt they'd sell SH so might keep them on, see if they get damaged and take a view. Discovery 4 HSE 1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF 1982 Series 3 Hard Top *Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB |
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RRUK Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jun 2007 Location: UK Posts: 6373 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Agreed. Discovery 4 HSE 1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF 1982 Series 3 Hard Top *Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB |
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Cam-Tech-Craig Member Since: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 16312 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
You know you want to Adam |
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