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Benfelrr



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[quote="northernmonkeyjones"]........... and the problems of replacement engines for the 3.6 are well documented,

Can you elaborate a bit more? I have missed out on this info. Are new replacement engines not trustworthy if one is required?

Cheers, Ben. 2011 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 TDV8
2003 VW Golf V6 4motion
2001 Range Rover Vogue 4.6
1982 Range Rover in VOGUE
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2007 Audi A6 Avant Le Mans Quattro S-Line 3.0 TDI
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northernmonkeyjones



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Replacement base engine parts have in the past been hard to find. IIRC a few years back it wasn’t easy to get hands on new heads or blocks.

There was also the problem of badly rebuilt engines being sold on eBay etc. I’m sure that properly reconditioned engines were fine but a while back there was ads offering engine swaps for a couple of grand, to folks whose turbos had blown and taken a cylinder with it...... There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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Benfelrr



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ahhh, thanks for the info. I am just watching out for my old 3.6 in case it comes up for sale so thought I would ask. Thumbs Up 2011 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 TDV8
2003 VW Golf V6 4motion
2001 Range Rover Vogue 4.6
1982 Range Rover in VOGUE
1990 Range Rover Vogue SE
2007 Audi A6 Avant Le Mans Quattro S-Line 3.0 TDI
2007 Skoda Ovtavia 2.0 TDI L&K
2007 GSX-R 750 K7

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Bill



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John w wrote:
. (don't get the revs up for any length of time / distance)

. I would still rather have a 4.4 though Wink


On long drives at 70-80mph seems to sit on 1500 revs ,, Filters are in fact so good that in certain circumstances, when the ambient air is already polluted, a diesel car will tend to extract more particles from the air than it emits. Emissions Analytics worked with........etc etc

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ibb1



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I think both choices are wrong the 3.0 TD6 is clearly the best of the bunch Razz .

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DrRob



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Nah. 200Tdi in a1993 Vogue. Still does same mpg as my 4.4 Shocked Ner Ner Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
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ibb1



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I had a 300 TDI Soft dash in about 2006, so slow it makes a TD6 look speedy but bags of character, wish I’d never gotten rid of it, they’re worth a fortune now!.

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Yep! Took my 93 to Goodwood this morning. Lots of compliments Bow down Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
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ibb1



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I'm not surprised, I'd love another RRC, such a rare sight these days unfortunately.

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gizze



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How many turbos have gone on the FFRR?

I know they go quite a lot on the RRS, however, is that not because there is no air around them, they don't cool down properly?

When I was buying my 3.6 I searched and searched for someone who had lost their turbos, found post after post on the RRS but don't think I found more than one or maybe two that had lost them on the L322. Porsche 911 (996)
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PizzaTim



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[quote="mjdronfield"]The initial point doesn’t stand, the 3.6 could let go at any time without warning and then you will be left with a very expensive paper weight.

The 4.4 doesn’t do that.

Seriously ? I know of five 4.4's with engine failures, four currently for sale and one owned by a friend. Friends is in a 405, full history and went pop with zero warning, £9k fix.

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kevinp



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Seeing as this thread has been revived and I hope Dr Rob reads this, can you tell me what symptoms you had which meant you had to have a new turbo please? Thanks Kev.

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[quote="PizzaTim"]

mjdronfield wrote:
The initial point doesn’t stand, the 3.6 could let go at any time without warning and then you will be left with a very expensive paper weight.

The 4.4 doesn’t do that.

Seriously ? I know of five 4.4's with engine failures, four currently for sale and one owned by a friend. Friends is in a 405, full history and went pop with zero warning, £9k fix.
Are all these L405's? 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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D3Jon



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Good point JayGee, that's one of the conclusions that came from my thread discussing 4.4 reliability. It was noted that nearly all the 4.4TDV8 engine failures have been in L405's.

My thread here: https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic69686.html

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Previous: 2011 L322 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE /// 2002 L322 4.4 V8 HSE /// 2009 Discovery 3 2.7 TDV6 XS /// 2004 Defender 90 TD5 /// 1993 110 V8 Snatch Landrover /// 2005 Discovery 3 2.7 TDV6 SE (Aus) /// 1990 110 Isuzu 3.9 County (Aus) /// 1976 Series III Trayback (Aus)

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PizzaTim



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Just two 405's, can't remember the years I'm afraid
I currently own a 2006 3.6 (Just done egr delete at 93k), was looking for a 4.4 and was a little surprised so see these currently for sale with such serious issues compared to advertised 3.6's. Could be just coincidental these are for sale at this time however it has made me consider keeping the 3.6 for now

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