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Old-un



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MOT Advisory on Brake pipes

I know renewal costs of corroded brake pipes have been discussed on this forum but what does it really mean when they are the subject of an MOT advisory?

I have had this on the last two MOTs. If I do nothing about it what would happen eventually, would they rust to the point where brakes are suddenly lost or would they become corroded to a point that they are deemed a "failure" of the MOT? before this happens.

In other words does an advisory suggest that the items tested will last for the next 12 months ,as I think is the assumption for most other things tested and passed, or is there no such guarantee? Rolling Eyes RR owner

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PeteT80



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I know if I had an advisory for corroded brake pipes I’d get them replaced asap.

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Baltic Blue



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+1 ditto
If the bits they can see are corroded, I dread to think what the pipes under the plastic covers where all the mud gathers are like. insist on Cunifer for replacements.

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JayGee



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Why would anyone risk not fixing an issue with a crucial item like the brakes..... 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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SamThomas



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Just get them changed.

If, God forbid you had an accident (even if not brake related) your insurance company could argue that you had failed to maintain the vehicle properly & refute the claim.

Don't forget that MOT histories are in the public domain.

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Flashman



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My rear brake lines failed a recent MOT due to corrosion. It was a nightmare getting anyone to do the job. Took it back the MOT garage and whilst they were checking out the brakes again the lines popped! From what I have been told it is a very common weakness on the rears especially near the flex lines.

Cost around £550 all in to get sorted. Tom

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AJGalaxy2012



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Mine failed during the MOT test on the rollers. I had them replaced with Kunifer 10 brake pipes which should have been standard fit from JLR. To fit standard brake piping to a premium car that's designed to wade through water is crazy, Kunifer corrosion resistant brake pipes don't cost that much more. BMW i3 Electric Car
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Strider



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I had an advisory on brake pipes few years ago and replaced with Kunifer, I seem to remember a 7.6 metre
coil of the stuff was about £25 + fittings. Well worth doing for piece of mind. Joe90 did a great write up with
loads of pictures.

FNS New B/pipes

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chris_read



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I didn’t have any advisories for the brake pipes on my 2004 FullFat but one day the pipe which crosses from the left rear nearside to the right rear decided to split.That was a fun day…..
As many on here would say, brakes should be given the utmost attention. 2017 Jaguar F Pace 25t Portfolio - still part of the JLR family 😀
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rover75lover



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my 2004 had advisories going on the front pipes . Changed them ,tried the brakes and whoosh lost all pressure resistance . Had brake pipe fluid all over the sill ,removed the plastic and wow accident waiting to happen ,all with rot ,one had burst . Changed the lot .
The mot lad says its a VERY common fault but as theres a plastic cover over them he cant comment on them as hes not permitted to remove them ,hence the advisories on the pipes he can see which are available to see.
My two pennies worth
CHANGE THEM cheaper than an accident .

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Old-un



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I had an advisory on brake pipes last year but no mention of them on this years mot by the same garage? RR owner

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JayGee



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Just ignore it and don't worry then - maybe the rust has cleared up all by itself? 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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PeteT80



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Old-un wrote:
I had an advisory on brake pipes last year but no mention of them on this years mot by the same garage?

Old-un wrote:
I have had this on the last two MOTs.

Either way thats a scary thought that they haven’t been changed.

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SamThomas



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Old-un wrote:
I had an advisory on brake pipes last year but no mention of them on this years mot by the same garage?


& they live on the same planet as us..............

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CS



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My 322s had this, the 2004 one failed its MOT on corroded brake lines. Based on mine, there is probably surface corrosion but if failure were imminent it would have failed. Clearly you can't go wrong just getting the work done. But maybe step 1 is to discuss with the tester what sort of life is still in the lines. On one occasion mine were treated with a rust inhibitor like Dinitrol (not sure which) and with that treatment they lasted a while longer. But as a general comment 322 brake lines are not especially durable and one has to be prepared to replace etc from time to time. Only Range Rovers since 1988

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