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Burkie33



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2012 TD8 Westminster, starter clicking

Intermittently starter clicks but won’t crank, it appears to happen when brake pedal is “soft”, if I pump the pedal to firm more often than not the starter cranks and the vehicle starts. I am considering starter replacement or brake light switch replacement 🤔🤔🤔🤔. I have tried to access the brake light switch but can’t find the way to remove the panel beneath the steering wheel. I’ve checked YouTube which shows older models that have a clipped “pull down” panel but the Westminster seems to be moulded. I have removed the lower panel but this doesn’t gain access to the switch. All advice gratefully received 🙏

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brian1951



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2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

It will be the starter motor, common problem on your model.

Post #603453 11th Aug 2021 11:17am
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CS



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The thread will probably be moved to L322 general or maintenance, but anyway, when my 2012 WM starter clicked and would not start intermittently it was cured by replacing the starter motor. It seems a very common fault. The brake light switch wasn't mentioned, and as it does not click it might be less likely to be the problem. Only Range Rovers since 1988

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dhallworth



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Another vote here for the starter motor. Our 2012 car is on it's third.

It's incredibly simple to change and requires removing nothing other than the engine under tray. You do not need to remove the wheel, arch liner or anything like that.

I bought a Denso from Euro Car Parts for ours that was just over £300. They were in stock in Glasgow too and since fitting it we've had no further problems.

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Burkie33



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brian1951 wrote:
It will be the starter motor, common problem on your model.


Thank you 🙏

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Burkie33



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CS wrote:
The thread will probably be moved to L322 general or maintenance, but anyway, when my 2012 WM starter clicked and would not start intermittently it was cured by replacing the starter motor. It seems a very common fault. The brake light switch wasn't mentioned, and as it does not click it might be less likely to be the problem.


Thanks 🙏🙏

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Burkie33



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dhallworth wrote:
Another vote here for the starter motor. Our 2012 car is on it's third.

It's incredibly simple to change and requires removing nothing other than the engine under tray. You do not need to remove the wheel, arch liner or anything like that.

I bought a Denso from Euro Car Parts for ours that was just over £300. They were in stock in Glasgow too and since fitting it we've had no further problems.

David.


Thanks David, I’ve been checking out starter removal on YouTube and some are removing a piece of exhaust and others heat shields and having issues reaching the top securing bolt……..is it really an easy replacement with just the bottom cover removed ? I do have access to a ramp. I really appreciate your help thanks, Burkie

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V8 Bob



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Yes it’s relatively straight forward. If you’ve access to a ramp even better. Bit of a squeeze getting it out. I followed the you tube video and did it on axle stands. Spent about three hours including cuppas and rewatching bits of video!

Got a Denso from Opie Oils for £207…..just looked and prices a lot higher and out of stock currently 2012 tdv8 Westminster arrived Jan 19 gone Dec 23

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dhallworth



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We've got a ramp in our workshop too and all we removed was the under tray. It's a squeeze and it does need to be manipulated but it will come out of the gaps in the subframe.

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

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Burkie33



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V8 Bob wrote:
Yes it’s relatively straight forward. If you’ve access to a ramp even better. Bit of a squeeze getting it out. I followed the you tube video and did it on axle stands. Spent about three hours including cuppas and rewatching bits of video!

Got a Denso from Opie Oils for £207…..just looked and prices a lot higher and out of stock currently


Thanks 🙏

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Burkie33



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dhallworth wrote:
We've got a ramp in our workshop too and all we removed was the under tray. It's a squeeze and it does need to be manipulated but it will come out of the gaps in the subframe.

David.


Thanks 🙏

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Burkie33



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dhallworth wrote:
We've got a ramp in our workshop too and all we removed was the under tray. It's a squeeze and it does need to be manipulated but it will come out of the gaps in the subframe.

David.


Thanks 🙏

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Burkie33



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dhallworth wrote:
We've got a ramp in our workshop too and all we removed was the under tray. It's a squeeze and it does need to be manipulated but it will come out of the gaps in the subframe.

David.


Thanks 🙏

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Can I suggest you try this pls:

When starting press the stop/start button . first then > depress the brake pedal. Let me know how that goes when you are having difficulty starting.

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Burkie33



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I’ll give it a try thank you, however after reading all of the replies I’ve ordered a new starter that I hope will arrive tomorrow 🙏🙏…….I really appreciate all the help and advice I have been giver on this problem…….🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

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