p38arover wrote:

However, the biggest problem is the cable from the ULF to the antenna mounted on the nav system. The orientation of the connector in the ULF means the cable out of the right-angle cable connector is aimed at the vertical black mounting panel. This means the ULF cannot be screwed back on.

I thought about reversing it end for end so the right-angled connector goes to the antenna but it can't be fitted, again because of the right-angle. Gaaahhh!

I decided to pull the antenna out to see if I could modify the case. I opened it up (and the one that came with the ULF I bought from Lukie). The two antennas (antennae?) are very slightly different in that the ULF Bluetooth antenna metal bit is slightly smaller (higher frequency?).

New Bluetooth antenna top, old cordless handset antenna bottom. Note the very slight difference.

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The new antenna. I might have to cut away the plastic on the bottom left corner to allow the right-angle connector to lay flat.

The plastic locking ring can be rotated to fit the right-angle connector but it is very tight - as if the dimensions of each end connector are different. I can grind off some of the plastic antenna housing to get clearance for the right-angle connector.

I'll go and take some pics and edit this post a bit later. Ron B. VK2OTC
2003 L322 V8 Auto
2007 Yamaha XJR1300
Previous: 1983, 1986 RRC; 1995, 1996 P38A; 1995 Disco1; 1984 V8 County 110; Series IIA

I just moved the pins needed to the new connector, old ones still in the old connector.

I don't remember having an issue with the antenna cable.

I drilled a new hole to mount the ULF at the top, and used a rubber grommet at the bottom to stop it vibrating.

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

I did see that grommet in one of your(?) photos.

Some cables appear to be straight at both ends.

Yes, I'll be moving the pins to the new connector, too.

I'm now trying to remove the Siemens phone eject box. It's a bit of a mongrel to pull apart. Ron B. VK2OTC
2003 L322 V8 Auto
2007 Yamaha XJR1300
Previous: 1983, 1986 RRC; 1995, 1996 P38A; 1995 Disco1; 1984 V8 County 110; Series IIA

I've added a few pics to my previous posts.

I had a look at each of the connectors on the antenna cable, and it can't be swapped end-for-end. The locating pins are different. The antenna end will go onto the ULF but the ULF end won't fit the antenna. See below. (Sorry about the dirty fingers, I had to wrestle the cable out of the sticky loom.)

Some butchery will be needed.

I've modified the BT antenna connector by filing off one of the alignment pins. I also modded the plastic case so the cable will lay flat. They now plug together nicely.

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I used the bottom chart. I think the diffs around 18 pin front of car are the pairing button, so you could argue either way connected will work. 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Thank you mjdronfield, will check (I don't know your real first name).

Cheers

Ron Ron B. VK2OTC
2003 L322 V8 Auto
2007 Yamaha XJR1300
Previous: 1983, 1986 RRC; 1995, 1996 P38A; 1995 Disco1; 1984 V8 County 110; Series IIA

Owners manual here, for when you done....

Mark



http://www.fullfatrr.com/gallery/albums/us...Manual.pdf 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Thanks Mark.

Now to source an oddments tray/upper cubby box tray from a non-phone equipped HSE. Ron B. VK2OTC
2003 L322 V8 Auto
2007 Yamaha XJR1300
Previous: 1983, 1986 RRC; 1995, 1996 P38A; 1995 Disco1; 1984 V8 County 110; Series IIA

I think I have worked out why your diagrams above don't match my car. In mine, the microphone connects to the old voice recognition module.

For example, on mine the old cable 54 is Yellow/Black as per the diagram on p220 of RAVE, not White as show in one of the pinout diagrams, 17 is Blue/Brown, not Black/Brown.

This begs the question, does the voice recognition module remain in circuit or is there a revised pinout diagram I haven't yet found?

Also, I have cut the old Siemens eject box out. I hope I don't need the electronics from that as I've cut the ribbon cable. Ron B. VK2OTC
2003 L322 V8 Auto
2007 Yamaha XJR1300
Previous: 1983, 1986 RRC; 1995, 1996 P38A; 1995 Disco1; 1984 V8 County 110; Series IIA

I didn't have the factory phone in mine or the voice. The eject box is just used for the button so cutting the ribbon should not cause an issue. It's fed from the boot anyway. I would imagine you will have to disconnect the old units or they will be on the iBus still.

I'm not aware of any other diagrams. Maybe you need to make some minor changes then. I though the old 54 pin connections should be the same as it's still the TCM but never looked at one with phone already in. 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Yep, I'll do a bit more research. Not knowing what the wires on each module do is a disadvantage. Ron B. VK2OTC
2003 L322 V8 Auto
2007 Yamaha XJR1300
Previous: 1983, 1986 RRC; 1995, 1996 P38A; 1995 Disco1; 1984 V8 County 110; Series IIA

The charts in my last post are what needs to be where on the ULF and what's in your car now should be in RAVE, so in theory sorry I can't be more help. It's worthwhile when you get there....

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

It seems it's all to do with the voice recognition module. Covered in this thread: http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic4537.html

I need to do some reconfiguration of the blue plug in the VRM. There is an adapter available but I'll try just joining the wires.

We'll get there. It's not that important as I rarely get phone calls. The main reason for having it is for those rare occasions when I do get a call. Holding a mobile phone whilst driving (or stopped with the engine running) is, in this State, a A$330 fine plus 4 demerit points (double demerits in holiday periods). It's higher in some other States. Ron B. VK2OTC
2003 L322 V8 Auto
2007 Yamaha XJR1300
Previous: 1983, 1986 RRC; 1995, 1996 P38A; 1995 Disco1; 1984 V8 County 110; Series IIA