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RR2008HSE



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UK Marine wrote:
Have a look and see what antivirus program your using, they are responsible for slowing down a lot of computers in my experience.

Kaspersky, Mcafee and Norton are the usual suspects, if you are running an antivirus program, and you should be, disable it and see if that improves the situation. If it does, try Microsofts free antivirus as that doesn't slow things down, if it doesn't then start looking at defragging your hard drive and use C Cleaner to clear out all of the useless stuff that Windows likes to hang on to for whatever reason. Make sure you run both the Windows and registry cleaner and this will take out any redundant software and registry entries. As far as registry entries are concerned, most of the redundant entries get in the way of legitimate entries and slow them down, so it's like going to Edinburgh to get to London from Leeds, hence the slowing down..


Good advice. Norton used to make things quite slow. They've improved in recent years, at least with my system. Not heard of PCchillen.

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Mac vs PC. It's probably less controversial to talk religion (or Brexit)!

Macs are generally a lot more expensive than PCs and better put together. GOOD PCs are about the same price as Macs and as well put together, but most are at the bargain end of the market. Macs are few in number, but they own the high end of the market. A $300/£150 PC will probably get you about 18 months.

An old PC is a lot easier and cheaper to upgrade than an old Mac. Mac - get one that does want you want. When it no longer does want you want, toss it. PC - can upgrade as needed, but there's a time when you might seriously be left with nothing original except the box and the fan. Mr. Green

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I used to build my own PCs years ago and had some very slick machines in the past, but I replaced my last one with a Mac when it didn't work any more. I got fed up with having to feed the PC more bits, memory, software, etc and it randomly had major dicky fits ending in blue screen action pretty much every time it was turned on!

My iMac is a 2011, it has been running (continuously) since then, apart from the occasional power cut and turning it off to fit more memory! It's still fast, quiet and so far reliable, even the software updates apple forces on us haven't slowed it down to much.

The thing is they are pricey, mine go through the business so it's not so much of an issue, but they don't do anything a PC doesn't, IMHO the just do it slightly slicker. Windows machines are now getting back to being on par with the new surface pcs, but the bottom end of the PC market is full of tat.

Lost patience with swmbos cheap windows 7 laptop this week, but it is 18 months old so is probably due for upgrading, but she isn't going to get a Mac but another Censored acer laptop!! There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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RR2008HSE, it's not PCchilling, it's PCillin Laughing Anyway like all things windows it's been upgraded a few times.. now called Trend Micro Internet Security 2016, or something like that... It was recommended to me by my Brother in Law (EX, D'OH!) who worked for a company who did data processing for Amex and a few Banks.... It was sold to me as industry standard, but they sort of kept it quirt Whistle It has worked very well.. but as the years have gone on and I've stayed in the dark ages... I have sort of been left behind Big Cry

I have acquired a 64 bit windows 7 pc, was putting off the hassle of changing everything especially emails... then eventually found that I could export copies to an empty file Very Happy and then I tried to load that file, which had been sent to a stick, on to another machine that is running win7 Big Cry They will only work with Vista Banging Head Banging Head Big Cry I can now see why Vista is so hated throughout the computing world, they really don't do you any favours Evil or Very Mad So it's back to forwarding the emails Censored Censored

Unless I set up the other PC and do file sharing on the network Shocked That ain't going to happen with Vista, Censored thing doesn't like talking to it's self let alone another computer Evil or Very Mad

My next worry is my new phone has an octa core processor.... does that mean that 64 bit is about to become so last year in favour of 128 bit? Should I tough it out a few more weeks Rolling Eyes Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Embarassed I think I've dropped a clanger Sad

So there I was all long in the face, due to another computer failure (I should be used to it owning a ffrr Wink ) and a good friend took great pitty on me and donated a 64 bit puta with win7 home premium Very Happy So I set about removing all the unwanted junk his kids had installed... and it got to the stage where I thought that it would be better to start again clean Smile ......

And then the fun started...... It's an HP product, so the first hiccup was I couldn't download windows7 from Microsoft.. I had to get it from HP along with their 7 GB of junk Evil or Very Mad I'm not having that... so after a lot of searching I finally found somewhere that Microsoft hadn't blocked and managed to download the iso. files for win7... I then read that it could be turned into a handy boot stick Very Happy So I downloaded the conversion program and set about making the stick, if I can't boot it I'll get it with the stick Twisted Evil

After much stick formatting, I sort of got the feeling that all wasn't going quite as expected.... back to the web... need to download a stick conversion prog from Microsoft Shocked ... Microsoft wouldn't let me download as I wasn't the original purchaser Censored So I went back and managed to burn it to a disc... although I did have a hell of a time with that, until I realised that I'd put a blank CD in the drive and not a DVD Embarassed Easy mistake when they are all printable discs... they really do all look the same Laughing

So at 6 pm (GMT for those who really care) I started the new install of windows 7, with my new disc Very Happy the first thing it asked was did I want it to load the most up to date version.. saving me a lot of faffing about with up dates Mr. Green ...... It's been churning in the corner for 4.5 hours and it's still gathering internet information... I just wanted windows 7 not the entire net Big Cry Big Cry I'm beginning to think that I may have to crash it and start again Sad ........ And then I'm half expecting your licence isn't valid and phone this helpline message... happened when I rebuilt my Vista machine Banging Head .... I told them I'd changed the hard disc Whistle when in fact the only bit from the original computer was the dvd drive Wink Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Sit Rep.... still thinking about it.... I've had enough now..... I'm going to leave it on and see what the morning brings....... Rolling Eyes Probably D'OH! and Censored Censored Banging Head Banging Head Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Well after a serious amount of Banging Head Banging Head I have a working computer and a massive headache Shocked

But the good news I managed to do away with all things HP Mr. Green and the bloody partitions on the disc Evil or Very Mad

I'm now battling Windows Mail...... which is pants Shocked Suggestions........... that don't cost Wink Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Edit..... windows mail is pants...but Firefox is even worse Shocked

I was forced to use it on the other computer as Google stopped supporting it on Vista.... But now I'm back in the modern world, I can use Chrome again.. until Windows 7 is too old... a couple of weeks then Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

From the way this is working now, I reckon that Firefox was causing a lot of the slow running issues Rolling Eyes Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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http://www.pmail.com/

I've used it. Powerful, secure and easy to use. Although, the interface could use some work.

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Although strangely enough windows mail has started to function normally now that firefox was given the Revo uninstaller treatment Rolling Eyes

I'll give windows a shot as there are no commercial use restrictions which I could fall foul of with the other program... although it could be argued that the way then cars have been eating the profits... I could probably get away with non profit status Rolling Eyes Big Cry Big Cry Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Mr. Green Windows 7 on a 64 bit machine with ssd Mr. Green

Shocked It's fast..... ssd turned up today, loaded a clean Windows, Trend and Mail in under an hour from start to finish....it took nearly 2 hours with the old hard drive..... the only thing that's slowing the system down now is the data input processor... but that's improving too, 2 fingered typing Laughing Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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If you are sticking with a Windoze machine it may well be worth getting into the habit of good maintenance if you havent already. Defrags, deleting old stuff and genera SSD good housekeeping etc.
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You're not supposed to defrag an SSD as they don't store data the same way that spinners do. You do have to optimise them though, so download the toolbox software that is usually available from the SSD manufacturer.

You normally optimise around once a week to keep them up to scratch.

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Rolling Eyes well I didn't Ner Ner Shocked Embarassed Embarassed

I'm going to put the hdd back as a storage medium.. got 4 Sata slots... 2 Sata drives, ssd and dvd, and only 2 power plugs, D'OH! plenty of molex plugs but only 2 of the little black things for the Sata drives.. Evil or Very Mad you bet ya Laughing

And then there is the issue of where to put the extra drive... there's a 5.5" slot, a 3.5" slot and then nothing Shocked there's enough room to get 2 bricks side by side on end, but no bloody rack Shocked Banging Head Banging Head Why? do HP expect you not to add to their product? are they so delusional that they thing it will never need improving? or do they expect you to just toss it out with the black bags and get another.... Rolling Eyes Thinking about it the last option is the best for HP, but I will not be beaten.. although a long legged blond with DD air bags might get me to change my mind Rolling with laughter

Now is it better to only use the ssd for the operating system and use the hdd for programs, or should the hdd be files only? Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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