You can still get the exhaust jacks - not cheap though @ £90 and also not very precise - they are quite large, so spread the load over a wide area - which might be a good thing on an old Defender with a clear chassis, but I'd worry a bit about using one under a FFRR

Do you mean one of these?


You can them on the good bay of fleas http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Raptor-4x4-Off-R...SwWnFV7tXL

There are only 2 things that I can think of that might prove to be a problem..........

The ffrr has a twin exhaust outlet, from a common exhaust box, so I'm not sure if you'd get pressure required to lift the wounded beast.

Secondly have you seen the exhaust tips on a ffrr... your a better man than me for an early example as they are up behind the wheels, and the later ones are bloody great rectangular things............ that would be like putting a round peg in a square hole

And I still recon that you'd have to block the other side to get enough pressure.... that would go down a lead balloon with your better half. And worse still it could get you arrested if your on your own.... Excuse me officer, could you please help me raise it up by holding my pipe  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Easiest way is Merc bottle jack, grind a bit off the horns (1/16/off each end is plenty) and refit on top of jack with horns pointing down, simples

The Air bag has the potential to be the best option for soft ground, as it has a much larger foot print than the more conventional types of jack, but if you read the blurb, they do say not to remove any of the wheels when your using it........ so it's not a jack........ it's a self recovery lift, and I would imagine prone to failure

So we are back to the problem of standard verses after market..... if I was going to be doing a lot of off road, I think that I would be inclined to use a trolley jack on some scaffold boards....... I do have a compact one in a case, that's in the T'Bird, this would be the best solution if they lift high enough.... Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Need a nice jack for the L322 pronto.

Had a near disaster yesterday...Jacked up the passanger front with the stock jack in the rectagle recess by the front mudflap...put a jack stand under the tubular frame behind the passanger wheel. Go let some stress off the stock jack and put some on the jack stand and the bloody Range starts drifting backward and off the jack stand and stock jack. I wasn't under the Range but still. The jack stand is bent up and rubbish. The stock jack threaded driveshaft is wonky and hard to use now. Not sure what all caused this but I'm thinking maybe the stock jack started to bend and move and then the truck started moving off the jack stand.

In any event the stock jack doesn't seem very robust for the job. What is a good upgrade?

I have a floor jack but getting it far enough under and the truck to a suitable jacking point and up high enough with it has been a challenge. I need something that has enough travel to get the front wheels off the ground.

While we are on the subject...where is the best place to put the jack other than the stock jack points by the side skirts..obviously this won't work with an aftermarket jack 2014 FF Autobiography 5.0 SC
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Are well this is where you are wrong Buddy, the 2 stage bottle jack that's supplied in the Mercedes Sprinter will lift the wheels off the ground using the stock jacking points......

I believe that they were marketed over your neck of the world as a Dodge Sprinter Van....... If they do one that's rated 7700 lbs + then it should have the jack that your looking for

As far as Floor Jacks are concerned, I'm not that familiar with the term, however I will assume that we are talking about a jack on wheels.... I place mine at the point that the lower arm meets the sub-frame for the front and as my Trolley Jack has a rubber pad I place it under the rear arm some where near the middle, where it's almost flat  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Yea the "sizzor" jack was the OEM one I was referring to. It goes up nice and high but its fragile.

Yep floor jack it the "jack on wheels"

I'll have to google that "Sprinter jack". You're saying it will go into the stock rectangle jack point by the sideskirts? Plenty of travel to get the wheels of the ground? 2014 FF Autobiography 5.0 SC
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The Sprinter Jack can be made to fit....... You can either replace the forked top with a rectangular bar, or take an angle grinder to the ears to make it a bit smaller and then flip it over on the ram so that it's flatter  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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This will do the job and will be a lot cheaper than a Sprinter jack

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Strongway-Hydrauli...mp;vxp=mtr Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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And it fits under the side steps? It looks pretty tall? I see what you mean about filing off the ears on each side to fit...not picturing what you mean by flipping it over though.

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2008 BMW M5

the cow horns are held on with a roll pin, which you can knock out to remove the top I haven't done it myself, just relaying what someone else has done...... Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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ahh ok...good to know  2014 FF Autobiography 5.0 SC
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2008 BMW M5

Go to eBay, look for a bmw jack pad adaptor. They are made of hard rubber, use it on your trolley jack. Then get a sprinter jack, and use the pad to model yourself a smaller metal bar to fit the top of the sprinter jack.... You need to bore it a little underneath to set the ram in, then slide the roll pin in, and you have a safe and efficient jack.

miggit wrote:

Do you mean one of these?


You can them on the good bay of fleas http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Raptor-4x4-Off-R...SwWnFV7tXL

There are only 2 things that I can think of that might prove to be a problem..........

The ffrr has a twin exhaust outlet, from a common exhaust box, so I'm not sure if you'd get pressure required to lift the wounded beast.

Well it's always good to try something before you need to use it..... especially if it doesn't work  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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