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Henry12345



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Oil change - which pump and which new oil and new filter?

Have (and love) my 2016 4.4 SDV. Only had it a few months and done about 5,000 miles
I know about the issues regarding oil dilution so want to change the oil as a preventative measure.

I have looked on Amazon at the manual 9l pumps (about £40).
Are these any good or should I invest in something beefier?

Also, what oil should I be putting back into the good lady?

And what filters?
I have a feeling the Stealership ones will be overpriced and underperforming.

Thanks

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Gremlin500



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United Kingdom 2017 Range Rover Vogue TDV6 Corris Grey

Mahle filter/Smith & Allen oil/Neilsen pump (needs small compressor, but worth having long term).

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knwatkins



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I don't see why people use the manual pumps.

A cheap little 12v pump sucks the oil out in a couple minutes, straight into a container of your choice.

I use one of these: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186436295446

Mahle filter is OX153/7D2 Kev

2014 L405 RR Vogue SE 4.4 SDV8 in Corris Grey
2010 L320 RRS HSE 3.0 TDV6 in Stornoway Grey

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Baltic Blue



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Baltic Blue

Try Opie oils, they do service kits, 2X 5l cans of oil plus filter element.
Just enter your reg number on their website and you are certain of getting correct spec oil etc.
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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caymanblack



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https://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-218910-petron...EYQAvD_BwE overfinch modified

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ChrisJC



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United Kingdom 2014 Range Rover Vogue SDV8 Aintree Green

I use a 10l bucket and the sump plug. Old style.

Chris. L405 - 4.4SDV8 Vogue
P38 - 4.6V8 HSE
Land Rover series IIA V8

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Eastsoutheast



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+1 for Opie oils, I have used 3 times for my RR. 2012 4.4 TDV8 Vogue Santorini black ivory leather

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JayGee



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

knwatkins wrote:
I don't see why people use the manual pumps.

A cheap little 12v pump sucks the oil out in a couple minutes, straight into a container of your choice.

I use one of these: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186436295446

Mahle filter is OX153/7D2

Just ordered one of these to try out as using my Draper Expert does involve 2 goes to get all the oil out as well as the pouring of it into my used oil jerrycan so this would make it easier. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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caymanblack



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That pump looks great Kev, is the tube it comes with long enough to get to the bottom of the sump ? And do you connect on the engine battery terminals? Thx.
Might save me getting under the car ! overfinch modified

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Seatown



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Scotland 2013 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Firenze Red

No need for the tube to reach the bottom of the sump as you connect the pump tube to the engine oil extraction pipe which is next to the oil filler cap. This pipe runs all the way to the bottom of the engine sump.

Twist to remove the cap on the extraction pipe, fit the pump tube over the top, loosen the filler cap and suck away! Very Happy

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knwatkins



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Yep, just connect the pipe to the suction tube and the cables to the battery posts under the bonnet and pump the oil out. Just make sure your engine oil is nice and warm and it'll suck it out in no time. Kev

2014 L405 RR Vogue SE 4.4 SDV8 in Corris Grey
2010 L320 RRS HSE 3.0 TDV6 in Stornoway Grey

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caymanblack



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Many thanks Kev Thumbs Up overfinch modified

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JDGeorgia



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I like crawling under the truck at least every other oil change(I'm on a 5k rotation) - gives me a chance to poke around and look at other things. I get under there and look and clean and wipe all while letting the sump drain fully. I am not in the 5 minute oil change business - so I have time.
Working from home, I will run down to the shop at lunch and get the Td6 draining - won't go back to finish the job until after dinner...

I changed the transmission fluid on my Daughter's 2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee this past week. That damn sump has no drain hole, so I bought a compressor driven xfer pump.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BN342TMR

I gotta say - that worked pretty well... but for my 2016 Td6 - I am going to keep using my ramps and crawling under.

I switched to Shell Rotella T6 5W-40 to combat dilution and 5K is just easy to remember. 100, 105, 110, etc.
It usually takes me 6-8 months to put up 5K so it is worth it to swap that often. 2006 L322 HSE LUX 4.4NA Jag V8 Buckingham Blue/Ivory - 'Col Reb'
Rolled Yahtzee Aug 2023 222,222Miles
2016 L405 HSE TD6. Santorini Black over Almond. - 'Donna the Diesel'
Only L405 IN THE KNOWN UNIVERSE with an L494 Shift Lever Fitted!
97K at purchase Sept of 2023

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garyRR



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Re: Oil change - which pump and which new oil and new filter

Henry12345 wrote:
Have (and love) my 2016 4.4 SDV. Only had it a few months and done about 5,000 miles
I know about the issues regarding oil dilution so want to change the oil as a preventative measure.

I have looked on Amazon at the manual 9l pumps (about £40).
Are these any good or should I invest in something beefier?

Also, what oil should I be putting back into the good lady?

And what filters?
I have a feeling the Stealership ones will be overpriced and underperforming.

Thanks


To chip in:

I tried a 12V pump, a decent Sealey one, and it struggled pumping the oil up through the drain tube.

I have the Draper Professional extractor and it works great, in fact it gets used on several cars a week as proof of its longevity. That gets just as much oil out as draining did.


Re the oil filter, the genuine OEM used by Land Rover is Mahle OX153/7D2. It's about £12, so save yourself a shed load of cash and just order the same thing without the Land Rover box!

Regarding oil, my personal preference is the Petronas 5000 FJ from OpieOils. It's about £60 for 10L, is a proper branded oil and has the Land Rover approval (not just a recommendation) to show that it complies with the standard. On my old TDV8, I still stand by the fact it significantly reduced the James Bond smoke screen over my previous experience with Valvoline and others. Have been using the Petronas on a 4.4 TDV8, my current 4.4 SDV8 and 3.0 TDV6 Jag. 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

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JayGee



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knwatkins wrote:
I don't see why people use the manual pumps.

A cheap little 12v pump sucks the oil out in a couple minutes, straight into a container of your choice.

I use one of these: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186436295446

Total Censored junk. Connector blew off the outlet and covered me and the front of the car with hot engine oil. Luckily I have a lathe and was able to make a proper connector but if you don't just buy the Draper expert. Also rewired it to make the electrical lead longer and remade the suction hose connector. Took about 15 mins to drain the sump but all the time worrying the pump would burn out or sieze up. Properly implemented a pump like this could work well but this model is Censored Censored Censored Censored Censored 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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