The SVR is one of my guilty pleasures David… Best of both worlds imho sir…

I've just posted on the RRS forum this afternoon trying to work out what sort of range they get from a tank.

I know it's not the kind of car you buy for economy, but I also don't want to be filling it every 3 days either as that would just drive me nuts.

There's a nice one with 26k miles on it at a dealer in Ayr that I'm almost tempted to go and have a look at. It's a 2016 though and I'd like a 2017 if I'm going to spend that kinda money due to the newer infotainment.

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

Handbrake fault has been traced tonight, it looks as if it’s a chaffed wire on top of the subframe. That’s probably going to be great fun to resolve!

I’ve also found the cause of the steering from the rear. The toe control arm on the OSR can be moved when grabbing it and shaking. It’s a tiny amount but I can hear it click so I’m going to remove it tomorrow evening and see what’s what. With a bit of luck it just wasn’t torqued properly when the car was tracked.

I found a vacuum pipe that goes from the fuel pressure regulator to the spigot on the plate on top of the supercharger tonight too. I’m going to put a hose clip on it to secure it. I’ve also ordered a MAF sensor and 2 pre-cat oxygen sensors to start with as good a chance as possible to resolve the rich running issue.

Looks like it’s going to be a busy weekend!

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

Is there any part you haven't replaced yet mate haha

Allen

There can’t be much, that’s for sure!

Annoyingly, one of the lower control arm bushes I replaced is knackered. The NS one is perfect but I noticed whilst under the car today that the OS one is torn.

I know I had the car on its wheels at normal height before I torqued the arm up but am now wondering if I got the bush slightly out of alignment when I fitted it.

At least it’s an easy one to sort!

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

Just keep it and buy an SVR as well easy peasy

I’ll let you broach that subject with the wife, Sandy  2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

Ah yes there is always that bit to be negotiated I tend to park them round the back of the outhouse mind you I was asked only the other day "Why are those two old cars in the garden?" I tried to explain that a classic and a p38 were not two old cars then just took her for lunch so might get away with it

Don’t mention it to her till it’s on the drive.

Remember, it’s Easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.

That is my commonly used go to phrase

Tonight saw the oxygen sensors and air flow meter changed on the Range Rover.

I ordered 2 Denso pre-cat sensors and a Denso MAF from Island 4x4. Total cost inc delivery was £368.96.

To do the oxygen sensors I removed the down pipes from the manifolds to drop them down and give me some more room. I then used the induction heater to warm the sensors and with a 22mm spanner they undid nicely which was a relief as I was expecting them to be horrendous.

One other issue I’ve had but haven’t mentioned as I’ve got used to it is the car not starting when you crank it first time on the key. It’ll turn and splutter but not actually fire. If you stop it, cycle the ignition and flick the key again it’ll start first time.

If you put the ignition on, then off again, then on again and crank it then it’ll always start first time without any problems.

Tonight I decided I’d have a look at that on the IID tool too.

This is the fuel pressure that was showing with the ignition on the first time was 4.10kPa which is 0.6psi.

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David, last time i saw something similar it was on a diesel TDCI 2.0 i think. i traced it back to the fuel filter and the return on it. although it was brand new (Because of this took me a while to look at it) and it was a Delphi one who made the Ford branded ones!! i changed it out and problem solved!!

basically it was siphoning the fuel filter empty when stood overnight, then the car would not start at all. however as these did not self purge if you re-purged it the car was fine for the day or if left a couple of hours you had to do the two turns of the key.

any how some useless waffle for you  2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

I had a look at this very briefly this afternoon.

With a screwdriver to open the flap on the fuel filler, the fuel return that was plumbed in for the LPG is easily visible.

I watched the fuel return as my Dad cycled the ignition. As soon as the ignition came on there was a small spurt of petrol and some bubbles appear. After the car was started there was a small (very small) but constant trickle of fuel out of it.

Obviously the fuel return solenoid that was part of the LPG is allowing fuel to pass. Tomorrow’s job is to remove it and block it totally before refitting. Unfortunately, removing it completely would mean replacing the pipe from the tank to the front or at least part of it.

I’m thinking I might turn a small piece of metal in the lathe and press it into the solenoid feed to totally block it.

The LPG on this car has been a total pain in the backside!

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

LPG has a lot of hidden pitfalls - even when it isn't fitted! - that could also be contributing to your O2 issues as the pump would be running at a higher duty cycle, meaning a slightly high fuel pressure on overrun as the pump would have more momentum than if it were running at a lower speed. I think you're right - plugging the outlet is the best & most cost effective option, maybe a slight taper on the turned plug?

Cheers Phoenix, glad to know someone else agrees with my line of thought.

I miss the LPG running costs but don’t miss the lumpy idle that was caused by the worn valve seats.

Once I can get to the bottom of these issues and get it the way I want it I’ll be quite happy.

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior