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GraemeS



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SamThomas wrote:
Even in the image you can see a little more glare from the LED...........

The picture has been taken standing to the left of the light with the LED globe where the cut-off rises, but standing to the right of the HID globe where the cut-off is horizontal. To get a proper comparison, take a picture standing to the right of the LED globe to compare its glare with the HID in this picture.

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JayGee



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I would also need to buy a new HID bulb and not the old faded bulbs I replaced - not going to happen. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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SamThomas



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JayGee wrote:
In what ways exactly are the optics poor, mismatched and unsuitable ?


I'm surprised you need to ask - if you get excessive glare the pick any one of the three.

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SamThomas



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DrRob wrote:
I'd never go back to old skool bulbs now. Never had anyone flash me on dipped. All good Thumbs Up


You won't - because if an oncoming driver does have an issue with glare from LED lights and "flashes" they get a return retina burning flash back.

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JayGee



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SamThomas wrote:
JayGee wrote:
In what ways exactly are the optics poor, mismatched and unsuitable ?


I'm surprised you need to ask - if you get excessive glare the pick any one of the three.

There are no optics in the bulbs it's just a light source - the optics are in the headlight housing
The LED light source is in the same place withing the lights optical system as the HID light source
What is unsuitable again? 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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this is my test setup..led is on the right of the pic , xenon on the left..

as you can see the beam is more crisper than the xenon.


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kevinp



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I've just fitted some Bevinsee DS3 bulbs and I'm not sure which High beam bulbs I need to match them.
Can some kind person send me a link as to which ones to buy please because some seem to have fans, ballasts or just ordinary H7 plug in types.

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JayGee



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I fitted these
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371786510808
They do throw a fault code when you do a GAP IID scan and there may be other ones from Aliexpress that Sam's motors linked. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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mjdronfield



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I also bought the above. No faults on the dash though, no problems so far..


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Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
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JayGee



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Doesn't show a fault on my dash either - only on the GAP IID fault code scan. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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kevinp



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Thanks very much for the info. Going for a drive now to see if the new D3S light up the countryside.

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kevinp



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I am now an LED convert as well. Amazing difference. Going to order the high beam bulbs now. Thanks for the advice. Thumbs Up

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SamThomas



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JayGee wrote:

What is unsuitable again?


The fact that the optics were not designed for the LED light source.

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rvbush



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Modern LED's have the light source in exactly the same place as in the bulb they are replacing. It is also a smaller source than either halogen or HID, hence the tighter beam pattern noted in Stan's post.

If there were any light scatter, Stan's fence photo would show it. In fact it's less. Drives:
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue - Stornoway Grey
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JayGee



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SamThomas wrote:
JayGee wrote:

What is unsuitable again?


The fact that the optics were not designed for the LED light source.

The LED light source was designed for the optics and works as intended to produce the correct beam pattern. No idea why you are struggling with this..... 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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