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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Baltic Blue
L322 8HP 4.4TDV8 Gearbox Failure

Story so far. About 2 weeks ago I bought a 2011 Vogue SE 4.4TDV8 with 110k on the clock for a knockdown price of just over £11,500 from BCA buy it now. Now I know why! It had FSH from 3 LR dealers. Drove it back from Belle View auctions & noticed change down to second & first a bit notchy. Drove to Anglesey from Manchester, about 130 miles & it was OK. 2 hours later went a short drive 2/3 miles & going up a slight incline had loss of power. Tried to accelerate & nothing. Took foot off accelerator & power returned. This repeated several times & continued on my trip home, when cruising on light throttle, power was lost until foot off throttle & then accelerate.
So first thing was read fault codes. Only engine fault was EGR temp. sensor fault. Had some trans. faults but can't remember what they were! I have now tried a gearbox oil change with new filter. When I took the sump off there were a LOT of iron filings on the magnets & in the sump! Anyway after oi change reset adaptations & tried again but no improvement. Conclusion gearbox is foopared.
Started searching on ebay & a few are for sale. Wanted to check the trans type/No. & looked at mine. To my surprise the sticker read "8HP45 7000 AE 4.4V8D" Gearbox looks like original.
My questions are: was the 8HP45 fitted to the L322? I thought it should be a 8HP70.
Also will the 405 8HP70 fit my car? as a low mileage one is for sale.
Or will a 8HP70 from a L322 fit?
I think they may need reprogramming or the valve block swapping over. If the latter will it fit the 8HP70?

Or should I just sell it!!!

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GGDR



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Sorry to hear about your trouble. Not sure about the model numbering. I thought they all had the 8HP70.

These trans are heavy duty, i've not read on here about a failure. There are plenty of us 4.4TDV8 owners over 100k miles too.

If your car has a towbar, it might explain the trans has had a harder life.

I hear that cars with problems get sent to auction. So maybe somebody knew there was was an issue and got rid.

. Cheers, Greg
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No towbar or evidence of one. Sold by Hatfields Liverpool, Land Rover main agents. Last 2 services were by them but no mention of gearbox. Last service at 96k.

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A different gearbox part number was introduced starting with VIN BA347155 but I can't believe that an 8HP45 was ever fitted. Microcat describes the boxes as 8HP70 from the outset which I expect to be true.

Have any engine-related fault codes occurred since clearing them?

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Only engine code is for EGR temp sensor which will not clear. Trans came up with P0741 Torque converter clutch solenoid - circuit performance or stuck off.
Also forgot to mention a couple of times there has been a vibration through the car, quite bad one time so I slowed down for a while then it disappeared. Checked rear prop bearing & seems ok. Chassis No. BA345637.

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The EGR fault code is probably this. Very common. I have it and it never clears. Instantly comes back. Will be getting it changed out at Rovertune in Reading soon
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic50202.html

Gearbox: Bristol Transmissions get good feedback on the various forums Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Baltic Blue

You could Google ... Tameside Transmissions.... It might be worth a phone call.
Based in Droyslden. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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Just a thought on this OO__OO, you say oil change, but given your symptoms a power flush may be better.

I'm no expert mind, but a standard 'drop' of the oil (and pan/filter change) and you'll only get around 4-5 litres out.

The TC and the cooler will keep original oil in unless you visit somebody with a machine that will force change all the oil.

It's not helped by 'sealed for life' statements which I believe are stated by LR but not ZF.

. Cheers, Greg
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LR's "sealed for life" means "sealed for life of any LR warranty that expire at 10years".
Censored jokers
Who the hell would not change their oil as preventative maintenance Rolling Eyes Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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My mistake! The gearbox is an 8HP70 !!! I read the sticker with a mirror & my eyesight is not always so good. I checked again & it is embossed on the side of the casing 8HP70 Rolling Eyes . Sticker reads BH42 7000 AE.
Re oil change. I did just drop the sump & disconnect the pipes from the cooler. Put back approx. 4.75 lits. into box. The thing that concerns me is all the iron filings. All the magnets were covered & still more in the sump pan.

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Might need an auto tranny specialist.... Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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Trans is now fixed. Bought a second hand one with torque converter for £650+vat. Reputedly only done 32k miles.
Swapped over the ECU & put new oil & filter in. Drives perfectly though only taken it for a short drive so far.
In case anyone needs to know the original code ended in AE & the new one in AG but this doesn't matter. Austin Champ - First car I owned in 1967 ETE167F
Willys Jeep
Lightweight L/R I converted to Ford 3.0 V6
Classic RR 2 door with 200TDi - written off!
Classic RR 4 door V8 - changed to 200TDi from above
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Disco 300 TDi Auto - Thirsty
Classic RR Overfinch 5.7 - Very thirsty
Disco II TD5 with off road kit
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telly-addict



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Nice glad you got it sorted Thumbs Up

Did you do the job yourself?

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dolph34



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Glad you found a relatively cheap fix , makes that a very cheap 4.4 Thumbs Up 2015 4.4 AB
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OO-00, great result Thumbs Up
PS
My brother had an Austin Champ around the same time as you, Rolls Royce engine was an absolute gem. 👍

Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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