Andy,
I think 1 of the main benefits of blanking the exhaust end off is that if done, it doesn't matter if the egr valve head subsequently breaks up - which might still be possible as it is still operating all the time unless electronically mapped out. With the exhaust end blanked off, no bits can drop into the exhaust / turbo.

I fitted an egr delete to our 3.6 tdv8 a couple of days ago.
Although the egrs appeared to be working OK before the mod., the engine seems. quieter & smoother when idling immediately after a cold start. But no other differences. Time will tell if mpg changes.
Two side benefits of removing and re-fitting the pollen filter housing :
1 - I discovered that 1 of the rear straight inlet manifold hoses wasn't fitted properly & was leaking slightly &
2 - I discovered the bracket holding the AirCon charging connector was bent allowing it to contact the RHS metal engine shield. Straightening it has got rid of a vibration I used to have on hard acceleration.

All positive so far  Paul,
2001 Discovery 2 TD5, 211,000 miles & climbing
2006 FFRR TDV8 Vogue 151,000 miles & now sold
Member of Midland (Land) Rover Owners Club, www.mroc.co.uk

ur20v wrote:

A tip (and its in the thread on egr delete and the instructions with the kit) is to use a magnet on a stick pick up tool and do the bottom blanks first, that way you can’t drop anything into the egr ports, don’t worry to much, the egr valves will be shut and you can Hoover or use the magnet to clear the port if you did drop something, also the bottom blank plug, gasket and bolts are all held together by the gasket so can’t be dropped once on the magnet pickup stick.

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Thanks ur20v - got it!

Went for mot today and passed with a smoke reading on 1 pass of 0.79

Just a quick reminder for those who may be considering disabling their car's EGR valves:

"Although it is not illegal to remove the EGR from your vehicle, it is an offence under the Road vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations (Regulation 61a(3))1 to use a vehicle which has been modified in such a way that it no longer complies with the air pollutant emissions standards it was designed to meet. Removal of the EGR will almost invariably contravene these requirements.

The potential penalties for failing to comply with Regulation 61a are fines of up to £1,000 for a car or £2,500 for a light goods vehicle."

I'm surprised that anyone might disregard that, write up about it in a public forum, then even publish their registration number!

Red Merle, your objections to the practice of deleting and blanking the egr's is noted. Unfortunately very few of us can afford the price of a year old euro 6 compliant RR. Further to that owners are simply trying to protect their engines from the destructive damage that egr's lead to.
The government's knee jerk reactions to the diesel pollution issue is bad enough if wasnt founded upon blatant lies.
Here are some further facts for all to digest.
1) There are over 5000 volcanic eruptions occuring across the planet at any one time. All but a few are under the oceans.
2) It has been estimated by scientist's that the eruption of Mt pinatubo in 1991 released more CO2 during its 2 weeks of activity than all manmade sources has ever released.
3) NOX gas is an inherently unstable compound and dissipates into harmless substances within 20 mins.
4) The planet has cycled between ice age and temperate conditions since the dawn of time. Warmed and cooled. Over an over. Its just the way it is.

The bottom line is that the motorist is the easy target. Other larger polluters get off paying any more. Shipping, airlines, power stations etc.
Who is going to charge all the volcano's then.

So, if Co2 is produced in much larger quantities naturally than Diesel owners contribute and the same is true for NOX gas, why then are they villified so readily. Simple answer because its a cash cow. Rant over 2007 Vogue TDV8 in Zermatt Silver with Charcoal

Also, without getting dragged into again, it says it isn't illegal, but effectively becomes so if the car cannot meet the air quality emissions standards set for the vehicle. Henda's meets it, as does mine, I think at best you could argue it's a grey area, but I think that's being generous. As I believe I've said in another thread, my emissions dropped from one MOT to the next with the EGR removed, so I won't feel too guilty about the polar bears

I am a bit confused I've passed well under the legal requirements of the new mot , so by blanking off the egr the vehicle runs cleaner and yet there's still people trying to frighten others by quoting the rules and regs which seems to me that its complying within the rules of said regulation
Is it me or what

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I'll point all the scientists who've dedicated their lives to this field over to your post, I'm sure they'll be grateful. Blimey, I don't suppose the earth is flat too is it??

What, the earth isn't flat ?  .
Experience is the only genuine knowledge, but as time passes, I have forgotten more than I can remember
Volvo V70 P2 2006 2.4 Petrol 170bhp Estate SE
MG Midget Mk1 1962

Previous: L322 Range Rover TDV8 3.6 2008; L322 Range Rover TD6 3.0 2002; P38A Range Rover V8 1999

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It's amazing how the argument "follow the money" only ever works one way.

Remind me, who benefits from climate change being real? All those wind-farm magnates you're always hearing about? Or conversely is it more likely that gas & oil billionaires have an interest?

If you don't believe in 96% of experts in a field, can I suggest you maybe aren't as clued up as you think.

And to pick up a point above, science hasn't proved any such thing with relation to volcanoes, in fact most recent estimates suggest that volcanoes generate around 200million tons of CO2 per year, and "automotive and industrial activities" produce over 24 billion tons. Here's a useful article - https://www.scientificamerican.com/article...or-humans/

This stuff is how America ended up with Trump, people on the internet sure they know more about volcanoes and CO2 than US Geological Survey and the CO2 Analysis Centre.

Anyway, back to arguing about the EGR removal

Provide evidence. From something peer reviewed, not Breitbart or the Mail.

Don't suppose I can interest you in some magic beans? rolls eyes

ur20v wrote:

So you think money and politics are not heavily involved here... rolls eyes.

There are a lot of scientists who follow the funding or hounded for not having the populist views