Comports, I too would not like to lose my stage 2 amp if I went this route. All the BMW chaps must be in the same boat ? Needing to fool the DSP to power on.... Somebody must have done it surely ? But searching the web doesn't show much unless I'm using the wrong keywords.

I can't help thinking the easiest way would be to get Baris to add an aux in. I have one on mine to a 3.5 mm jack plug, but as you'll have to use the pre amp outs from the unit, having rca phono plugs (the red and white ones female ones) added may be better for you. You will need the latest BM54 firmware on to allow the aux option, but Baris will obviously do that to suit. You can then use a normal 4m long or whatever length lead to go from front to back.

The existing head unit will still be needed to get the amps to power on and allow selection of aux as a source. Baris may have another way around it.

There are a few versions of the mid display available and one was to allow operation of the dsp option, so if you find one and put in glovebox, you could still change the settings.

Do the suppliers not do a specific dsp type version as oppose to a standard one ? 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

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2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Agreed - Baris - If you're reading this - Is it possible to upgrade my amp to include the aux input and then I presume I would just connect the aux output cables to the amp and not worry about the speaker wires (as the aux out does that)..?

Is that all I would need..?

Thanks Ash
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Going back to the adapter that you got Paul, to give you a wider field of view, how is that fitted to the camera?
It looks as though there is a threaded fitting into which the lens screws. If that's the case how does that attach to the camera?
This morning I'm fitting the camera into the car and I find that it does have quite a narrow field of view, so perhaps one of those wide angle adapters would be a good idea, although I'm not sure if it will fit the camera.

It comes with some metal rings you stick to the can then the lens is magnetic and sticks to the metal ring. Once I was happy with it I epoxed it in position

How do you wire the head unit if your putting the original in the glove box..? Do you still need the dsp conected or can you remove ?
Has anyone got a pick of it in the glove box please !
Steve

The head unit just stays connected to the original wires, you run a new wire for the Android one to the rear...

You should be plug and play then as the problem seems to be turning on the DSP with the new head unit, if you leave the old one in and leave it on Aux it "should" work....

The original unit should fit where your cd changer is so you still have a glovebox, you just lose the bit at the back.... Pete

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Thanks for the reply...
Do you have to use the dsp if you want the original in the glove box ?
So I will need the 6m power cable as well ?

Don't know if you "have" to use it or not....

Why do you want to keep the original??

And whatever you do you need the long lead and will have to strip out a fare bit of interior to wire it in, you also need a 5mtr aerial extension lead, standard male to fakra... Pete

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IMHO It would make sense to use it as the speakers are connected to it and it will be powered on, so you just need to piggy back the connector on the BM54, which from looking at the loom on the android unit, it's how it's designed to plug in. There is not an Aux as such on the existing system without the later firmware upgrade on the BM54 I believe, so I would imagine the new unit overrides the sound from the other sources via the plug. I have also been told that if setup, Aux will not appear as an option unless the system detects something connected to it..... But have not tested that.

If you remove the original head unit, the clock can't be set, which is not a major issue, but it also controls the FBH and ventilation timers, which some peeps want to keep. I have Aux Heat and would not want to lose that facility.

You will have to run leads to the rear of the car anyway, so you might as well try the easy speaker pickup through the existing system first........ 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

[quote="Haylands"]Don't know if you "have" to use it or not....

Why do you want to keep the original

I don't really want to keep it....I'm trying to figure out if it's needed to run the original head unit in the glove box for the aux heating etc...

You do need it to use the Aux heating... and set the clock... although you can do that by pulling the fuse at 12oclock and it resets... Pete

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Just having a mooch around and I've seen that this thread has got on to the DSP, looking at the wiring for the BM54, on the main plug there is a white wire coming from pin 13 thats labelled 'Remote on off to amp', has anyone looked at the state of this wire and tried to emulate this to see if the DSP turns on? Surely it's going to be in one of 2 states, either it will be switching to earth or it will be going live (+12v). After all the DSP is an add on and therefore only requires to be turned on to work, as it's connected to the speaker outs from the BM54, and processes the sound at full volume? Could you not wire your new head unit to the input wires for the dsp and then turn it on remotely. Failing that by accessing the the inputs you have disconnected the factory unit, and assuming that you've gone down the route of stuffing it all in the glovebox, can it not be turned on here and adjusted, but fed with the sound from the new head unit.
The one thing thats puzzled me is, if you remove the head unit (nav) totally, would you not loose the trip / fuel computer, and other functions that are displayed on there? Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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The white wire from pin 13 is the can bus wire, it needs a control down that wire to turn the amp on and adjust the sound. There is no direct control wire to the DSP.

Obviously, if you remove the head unit you lose the trip computer on it, but it still works on the bottom of the dash.... Pete

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Ok so what about the idea of using the old head unit to turn the DSP on, but feed it with the sound from the new head unit?
And sorry for confusion about the White wire, I was under the impression that the I-bus /can bus wire was White / Grey / Yellow, that must just be the CD changer. Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Yeah, sorry, me being thick, the white one is at pin 13 on the radio and pin 4 on the DSP, it's for the aerial amplifier, it does get a 12v from the Android unit but it still seems it won't turn the amp on...

I read somewhere that you can use the old head unit to switch the amp on but I can't find the thread now, it was on another forum....

They do work very well wired direct to the speakers, you lose some features but personally I don't care how many MPG it does, when it runs out I fill it up.... it only depresses me looking at the figure... Pete

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2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
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I know what you mean there, but sometimes I reset the fuel computer and try and get a good return, it does teach you to be gentle with the loud peddle! And on one eventful trip I did manage to get it up to 36 mpg, just before the suspension collapsed and I had to go at 35 the rest of the journey What I saved in fuel, I then blew on new struts, and then some  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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