Mikeyjd wrote:

Recently I have noticed that when my TD6 has been standing a few hours it is slow to engage first gear after I start up. It goes like this: start engine, put in gear.... Nothing for a few seconds then the car drives off as usual. This only happens if i put the car into forward drive. The car will reverse immediately, but if I then put it into forward, it waits a couple of seconds before it drives off. Once the gearbox has warmed there is no other problem. Gear changes are smooth, sport mode fine, manual gear change fine. Everything is ok except if I leave it parked for several hours.

Any ideas?

My Audi A5 used to do this if left standing for a while but happened in reverse also really annoying.. It only had 20k miles on it.The dealer did not appear too concerned oh how I hated that A5. They said it was just a valve that sometimes slow to engage if left standing or something like that .Just dont be tempted to do any bank robberies  Present :2008 TDV8 HSE
Gone Audi A5 2.7TDI
Gone Discovery 3 HSE
Gone Mercedes CLK
Gone Range Rover 2.5 DSE

An obvious first assumption is that this is a hydraulic issue (fluid viscous when cold, drained back into the sump overnight, etc.). However, the fact that reverse gear engages immediately points away from this.

Next, the forward and/or coast clutch could be leaking (possibly CF head ball valve sticking open, etc.) – but then why would the delay disappear when 1st gear is engaged manually?

This is why I’m wondering about the low clutch sprag – but even then, why would a mechanical friction device like this take time to ‘engage’ the first time from cold but then perform correctly the rest of the time (I assume you have no problems with 1st gear slipping once the initial engagement is out of the way)?

If it were the low clutch sprag that was faulty then a transmission rebuild would be necessary to replace it. It sounds from what the others are saying that you might be better off just trying to live with it.

Phil

OK guys, thanks for all the input. Maybe I will leave it for a while and save up my pennies for a rebuild eventually. I have learnt to live with it and have a suitable work around in the mornings.

The only problem I have had, was last week I stayed at a hotel with valet parking. I forgot to mention the problem. The poor guy eventually turned up in the morning with my car, saying he had been panicking why the car wouldnt run lol No longer FF owner but still interested. Present car Jaguar XE
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There’s a guy over on Xoutpost.com http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/x5-...sue-2.html who reckons he’s fixed his 1st gear engagement delay by replacing the fluid filter. Unlike in the 5HP24, where it’s held on by two screws, the 5L40-E filter is just a push fit into the seals in the suction port and he says that his came loose over time and dropped down into the sump.

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That could be interesting. As I had the filter and fluid changed about 2000 miles ago. Maybe the new filter has slipped out. No longer FF owner but still interested. Present car Jaguar XE
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My td6 box has just gone.
Symptoms:slight hestitaion to select correct gear at low throttle openings 45mph approx
Slow pick up from cold in drive and reverse, to the point of rolling back when on an incline.
When it finally went transmission failsafe message on computer and high revs for very little drive, managed to limp home.
2003 TD6, 98K, gearbox fluid changed 12 months ago when I bought the vehicle.
Not happy but somehow expected! 2003 Vogue TD6 - Adriatic Blue - 2010 Facelift & 2010 20" wheels
1996 90 Tdi soft top gone
2003 HSE TD6 gone
2005 RRS TDV6 HSE gone
2007 Vogue SE TDV8 gone

Join the club, mine just cost me £2495 to replace!

Clucking bell mate! Where did you get the recon box from and how much if you don't mind me asking? 2003 Vogue TD6 - Adriatic Blue - 2010 Facelift & 2010 20" wheels
1996 90 Tdi soft top gone
2003 HSE TD6 gone
2005 RRS TDV6 HSE gone
2007 Vogue SE TDV8 gone

Strange thing! The last few weeks the car is fine.

A few weeks ago I went away for four days without my car. When I got back home I got into my car and it drove away immediately. Ever since then it has behaved fine every morning.

Stange eh?! No longer FF owner but still interested. Present car Jaguar XE
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If its not used in manual mode maybe try flicking it into sport and then 1st and drive that way or a mile or two and then slot it back into Drive for the rest of the trip??

my 2003 hse ffrr hesitated for the first time this morning when i reversed of the drive and then put it into drive,this is the first time it has done it but i have noticed a reluctance to change up at low revs unless i lift my foot of the throttle a bit,,

am i soon going to join the gearbox gang done 98k, box has never been touched,,  Current Stable:
Range Rover 2003 TD6 HSE Alveston Red, Sand Leather
Ford Focus C-Max silver 2003
V/W transporter Blue 1995
Yamaha XJR1300 Yellow 2002
Kawasaki ZX7R Green 1998
Honda CBR 600 Black 1998
Yamaha RD125LC Mk1 Red 1986
Yamaha RD125LC Mk1 Blue 1986

M90 Its worth having your gear box oil drained,and having a new filter.

Although that said,it made no difference to mine,so the rebuild had to be done.

The joys of owning a Range.

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The odd thing is that I am having a similar issue with my car after a brand new transmission has been installed. The gearbox mechanic has sent the car to the torque converter company to diagnose as they cannot work out why 1st gear is taking so long to engage when the car is sat for a while (sometimes it is immediate, other times upto 10 seconds before shifting) yet reverse works normally all the time. Fluid levels have been checked and are fine.

Adds a different angle to the issue, in that it is happening to my brand new box. Tom

Current Drive
2011 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography - Santorini Black - Ivory Leather

Previous Drives
2004 Model Vogue Td6 (Touchscreen) - Java Black - Parchment Leather
1994 RR Classic 3.9 V8 Soft dash - Niagara Grey - Grey Leather
1972 Series III SWB Safari - Green (Hand Painted) - Black Plastic

This is getting old, but I have exactely the same issues. Will not engage in D for 2-4 seconds in the morning. Everything perfect besides this.

No solution were posted as I can see.. Any one that actually solved this?`

Thanks