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Mr Kington

Member Since: 06 May 2024
Location: Scotland
Posts: 11

sorry if i am covering old ground and or missed the point. But am I right in thinking that if you buy a 2018 onwards SDV6 or V8 and the crank snaps / engine terminates itself then there is no way of getting the replacement parts for them ? I am mulling over a 2018 onwards range rover but trying to work out which is the best route to go down.

15th Nov 2024 2:20pm

mjdronfield

Member Since: 04 Nov 2011
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 7793

2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Not as much of an issue on the V8, but a few comparatively recent reports been coming in around bearing failure. Crank snapping is much more of an issue on the V6 with issues being reported for a few years.

Don’t have any figures though, just observing on here.

2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

15th Nov 2024 4:47pm

Richie N

Member Since: 29 Dec 2023
Location: Kent
Posts: 331

2013 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Baltic Blue

These guys might be worth a try.

https://www.chaseengines.co.uk/services/engine-rebuilds

16th Nov 2024 11:22am

Meerbusch

Member Since: 16 May 2012
Location: Zürich (CH) + Düsseldorf (D)
Posts: 315

2017 Range Rover Vogue SDV8 Carpathian Grey

First of all, my sympathy and condolences for this engine failure. On the subject of engine repairers, I can only speak for Germany: there is no reputable repairer here, and I don't know of any SDV8 that has gotten far with a repaired engine, but if it is defective again within the "warranty" it is always due to the wrong oil, too short Intervals or driving errors are referred to. I can only advise everyone from experience to sell the defective car or for a visible one!! Converting an accident car to a used engine, everything else is nonsense. L405 SDV8 2017 + Lancia Flavia Coupe 1964 + RRS L494 3.0 SDV6 + C220CDI Convertible 2021

16th Nov 2024 4:16pm

knwatkins

Member Since: 11 Sep 2020
Location: Poole, Dorset
Posts: 768

2014 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Corris Grey

Selman Motoren are quite well respected in Germany for the 448DT I believe...

https://selman-motoren.de/

https://www.facebook.com/SelmanMotoren.de/ Kev

2014 L405 RR Vogue SE 4.4 SDV8 in Corris Grey
2010 L320 RRS HSE 3.0 TDV6 in Stornoway Grey

16th Nov 2024 6:08pm

Scouse Exile

Member Since: 09 Dec 2022
Location: East Midlands
Posts: 307

2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Buckingham Blue

DrF wrote:
Try keeping an eye on this few

https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/64949694/clea...-rove-york

https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/70939384/clea...verhampton

https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/68785734/clea...er-sp-york

That seems a very good shout as the second one has less than 50,000 miles and is side structural. Even after taking everything you need out there’s still a load of stuff you can sell from that and scrap the shell. If you’ve got somewhere to store the donor whilst it’s being broken up it could end up almost a free engine swap.

J

16th Nov 2024 9:14pm

4RRS

Member Since: 13 Apr 2022
Location: Crudgington
Posts: 195

2016 Range Rover SVAutobiography SDV8 Corris Grey

Second link is to a 3L SDV6, not going to help our OP. L405 SV Autobiography LWB SDV8, finished in Aston Martin China Grey by ETO division.

16th Nov 2024 9:17pm

4RRS

Member Since: 13 Apr 2022
Location: Crudgington
Posts: 195

Mr Kington wrote:
sorry if i am covering old ground and or missed the point. But am I right in thinking that if you buy a 2018 onwards SDV6 or V8 and the crank snaps / engine terminates itself then there is no way of getting the replacement parts for them ? I am mulling over a 2018 onwards range rover but trying to work out which is the best route to go down.

Yes and no, depends on what engine you go for and what model year!

The 306DT (SDV6) engine is still available from JLR as short block, strippped or full engine, as this was a joint project with PSA (Ford, Peugeot & Citroen). The engine is used in many models of the respective manufacturers although all are not interchangeable, due to mainly different engine mounting points (they were transversly mounted in some applications).

The 448DT (TDV8/SDV8) fitted to the FFRR L322 & L405 are no longer available as this was originally designed by Ford (when they owned JLR) for the Ford F150 pickup, as they thought they could market a diesel version of the F150 to the US market. It was made at the Ford Engine plant in Mexico for this sole application, but once the bean counters at Ford reviewed the figures they soon realised that the $6K uplift in price for a diesel F150 would never sell due to the low price of 'gas' in the US. It then sat on the back burner for a while until Ford decided they needed a replacement Diesel V8 for their FFRR and they had just the engine sitting with no home.

JLR (under Tata ownership) terminated the build contract with Ford in 2019 giving them 3 years notice that they no longer needed the 448DT (as it was replaced with the Ingenium range of engines in the latest L405's) hence the supply has now dried up.

Jumping forward, JLR, in a bit of a mess with loads of buy-back failed V8 L405's contracted Ford to produce a batch of short blocks, however as the 448DT Mexico engine production line has now been dismantled they could not fulfill the whole order and therefore just supplied the components, these were then shipped to the UK and assenbled by Autocraft Drivetrain Solutions in Grantham.

HTH L405 SV Autobiography LWB SDV8, finished in Aston Martin China Grey by ETO division.

16th Nov 2024 11:54pm

cass

Member Since: 12 Oct 2011
Location: northumberland
Posts: 731

Has anyone ever asked Autocraft Drivetrain solutions if they could rebuild a broken V8?

17th Nov 2024 8:50am

Scouse Exile

Member Since: 09 Dec 2022
Location: East Midlands
Posts: 307

It’s a good idea but having had a quick look at the website I don’t think they are involved in work for the public, it’s almost certainly on behalf of manufacturers. Always worth a phone call of course but I wouldn’t be too hopeful.

I think the idea of buying a whole vehicle has the most merit, at least you can be sure if it’s origin and at the end of the project you have a wealth of parts to trade out that can offset the initial outlay.

Good luck which ever direction you choose.

J

17th Nov 2024 10:18am

Chef45

Member Since: 02 Jan 2024
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 14

cass wrote:
Have you thought about cutting out the breaker and looking for a complete write off then recovering what you can selling the bits you don’t need?

No, a good shout, though, thanks.

17th Nov 2024 3:00pm

Chef45

Member Since: 02 Jan 2024
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 14

DrF wrote:
Try keeping an eye on this few

https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/64949694/clea...-rove-york

https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/70939384/clea...verhampton

https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/68785734/clea...er-sp-york

Thanks SO MUCH, good shout!! I'd have to pay to have it taken out but at least, I'd know it came from the same car!

17th Nov 2024 3:17pm

Chef45

Member Since: 02 Jan 2024
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 14

Thank you everyone, this has been SO helpful. At least now I have all the options and know what I need to plan - I was a bit lost.

Given a noon runner is so worthless, I think it's worth a 10k gamble with a used engine in some fashion. After all, the car, running is beautiful and worth a few quid!

17th Nov 2024 3:19pm

SS.Lyria

Member Since: 01 Dec 2016
Location: London
Posts: 245

2014 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 SC V8 Loire Blue

I’m assuming aftermarket warranties for SDV8’s are now either going to be very expensive to buy or not available at all.

I ask because I’ve just had my 2017 RR Sports engine go bang at 58k miles (oil dilution). Luckily I had an RAC warranty that covered the 1st £10k. Total bill was £11.6k for a LR reconditioned factory engine. Most components are new they recondition the block and cylinder head. Brand new off the shelf unit was £15k.

I was thinking of moving it on for a 2019/20 V8 FF diesel but now I’m not so sure if used warranties will be ridiculously expensive or not available at all.

I can see my 30 year LR ownership coming to an end. My 2014 (purchased in 2019) FF 5.0 Supercharged with 40k miles on the clock kept breaking injectors for fun at £700 a time and now the ultimate failure on my 2017 Sport.

My first 25 years of LR’s wasn’t without issues but nothing compared to the last 2 lemons

17th Nov 2024 7:38pm

4RRS

Member Since: 13 Apr 2022
Location: Crudgington
Posts: 195

I'd be interested to know how you obtained a LR factory unit as none have been available for nearly 3 years. I'm seeing the last price for a full engine at over 23k. L405 SV Autobiography LWB SDV8, finished in Aston Martin China Grey by ETO division.

17th Nov 2024 8:22pm

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