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Siftah Member Since: 11 Jun 2018 Location: Barcelona Posts: 347 |
So I finally got this all cleaned up and back together, refitted. All in all it took me way more than 3 hours, more like 7 or 8!
Once I'd opened up the solenoid it was pretty apparent what the issue is. Using a file and some wet 'n' dry paper, I cleaned up the copper contacts and made sure they were about level as possible. One was more worn than the other, though they needed a little balancing out. After putting it all back together it started up on the button, about five times in a row, so I'm hopeful this'll be the end of it for a few miles. It's obvious the solenoid contacts were in bad shape, but also the external contacts for the trigger wire and main power cable were pretty nasty and corroded - I would expect a combination of things meant it wasn't working well. Thanks to everyone who's posted on here with help and info, you're all legends. |
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19th Jun 2023 8:35pm |
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Siftah Member Since: 11 Jun 2018 Location: Barcelona Posts: 347 |
Well, there's basically three nuts holding the cover on, but then two electrodes that protrude through the cover, one just slides in but the second is the difficult one - pictures above with the chisel next to it.
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19th Jun 2023 10:07pm |
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GGDR Member Since: 26 Nov 2016 Location: London Posts: 3545 |
thx Siftah, I got it off. no breakages!
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20th Jun 2023 9:55pm |
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dhallworth Member Since: 10 Oct 2011 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3128 |
I’ve only just seen this thread.
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20th Jun 2023 10:22pm |
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Siftah Member Since: 11 Jun 2018 Location: Barcelona Posts: 347 |
I did mate, I stripped it right now and cleaned all the threads and surfaces that contact each other. Have a look at this video he gives a great set of instructions; &t=629s Especially the bit about taping everything up to avoid getting copper dust in everything! |
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21st Jun 2023 6:55am |
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Siftah Member Since: 11 Jun 2018 Location: Barcelona Posts: 347 |
It did look like it should fit, but I couldn't get it too tbh. I concentrated on getting it out through the side as that's what I'd seen recommended though, so perhaps I didn't spend long enough trying to get it out through the bottom, dunno |
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21st Jun 2023 6:58am |
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GGDR Member Since: 26 Nov 2016 Location: London Posts: 3545 |
I can't work out how to remove the propellor-shaped contact but don't think I need to.
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28th Jun 2023 7:10pm |
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Siftah Member Since: 11 Jun 2018 Location: Barcelona Posts: 347 |
I went for smooth as it's what he did in the video and I have no easy way of creating a knurled surface.
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28th Jun 2023 9:06pm |
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GGDR Member Since: 26 Nov 2016 Location: London Posts: 3545 |
Siftah yes trigger cable sorry Cheers, Greg
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3rd Jul 2023 6:25am |
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GGDR Member Since: 26 Nov 2016 Location: London Posts: 3545 |
Guys what kind of contact grease should I apply to the cleaned copper contacts?
Cheers, Greg - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2011 Vogue SE 4.4 with lots of toys in Stornaway |
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3rd Jul 2023 6:27am |
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GGDR Member Since: 26 Nov 2016 Location: London Posts: 3545 |
just to update, I've now done this with a dead starter off ebay, took it apart, revitalised the contacts, used the contra-lube then finally got the car up on a jack on the weekend, wheel off, undertrays etc off and with some wrestling the starter came out through the triangle shaped subframe gap directly under the starter. The gap under the the arch where the anti-roll bar did not come close to letting the starter through. So far is't working a treat and a £30 fix so well pleased. Cheers, Greg
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23rd Aug 2023 9:13pm |
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DeeJay Member Since: 16 Oct 2021 Location: Western Cape Posts: 34 |
Can those that went ahead to file off / clean the solenoid copper contacts tell us if this is a lasting long term solution? If it needed to be done again, how long after? 2011 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 |
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24th Aug 2023 12:34pm |
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GGDR Member Since: 26 Nov 2016 Location: London Posts: 3545 |
Having just done mine, I am wondering the same Cheers, Greg
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24th Aug 2023 2:01pm |
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Garymahoo Member Since: 15 Jul 2022 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 49 |
Hi all. Not much of a poster but my local auto electrician did a refurb on mine after a reconditioned unit dies after a week. We had already done the trigger wire to try to eliminate that but hey ho. After the death of the recon unit i out my denso starter to my local and he sourced a kit. Im sure i was +/- £100 for the refurb and had no issues since (nearly a year) Ive put of a picture of his suppliers book but he did say getting an account was a nightmare. Hopefully some other auto electricians use the same supplier. Im in N.E Scotland but if you want Daves details just ping me a P.m
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26th Aug 2023 1:35am |
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