Thanks guys, Sandy, yes you should worry....

I knew where everything was on a 322.... now I'm dithering when I need to press a specific button.... why have they moved everything, even the bonnet pull is on the wrong side and the catch has moved from the side to the middle... and as for were they have hidden the battery...!!! Turned the lights on last night and opened the side air vent....

Are there classes I can go on to teach me it all.....Lol...

James, I put that to make the title different from others, I say 4 0 5 as well....  Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

Highroller wrote:

Still happy with the L322 shape

I’m still on the fence about moving from an L three hundred and twenty two, to an L four hundred and five  Got - 2017 SDV8 Autobiography in Loire Blue
Had- 2008 TDV8 Vogue SE in Java black
Had - 2007 S/C in Stornoway Grey

Looks good pete

Still regret selling my L322 and buying a 405, maybe its because it was a 5.0L petrol. But the 405 is the better car Geoff

MR GLOVER wrote:

Looks good pete

Thanks..

I drove them today, back to back, I like the 322, always will but IMHO the 405 is better in every way, I know the consensus is that it's not a RR but I think the DNA is there, it's a 322 that has been polished...  Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

Well, it does more to the gallon, it’s faster, it won’t have rusty wheel arches, you can get a panoramic roof and a bloody enormous hifi.

If I get one, it will be an AB with the Signature system and opening roof….

Just need to rob a bank 🤣. 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

One thing that terrifies me about the L405 is the body corrosion that’s been picture above the rear subframe.

I wonder if it’s a common thing as it’s one major thing stopping me looking at them.

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

I saw those pics too…. I did wonder if you could prevent by putting a gasket or something in there, stop the 2 metals touching… or maybe that’s too simplistic….

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Knowing Land Rover they’ve used a steel bolt anyway  2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

With most garages having TIG welders it's not really a big issue, bit of welding...job done...

Mark, not just that, the doors close better, the windows are smoother, the steering has more feel, the climate is just that bit better, the seats cool and heat better... it's every last bit.... I've heard people moan about the "small" boot but it looks about the same to me, and it's easier to use with a lower bottom tailgate... Even the speedo needle goes under the numbers on the TFT screen so you can easily see your speed...!!

I can't find anything that hasn't been improved...pop over for a drive any time you like...  Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

I am also on the fence, I , like Pete, have both at the moment so can offer my opinion, basically when I am going out I 90% choose the L322, I am however a luddite.

Also I can testify that the 322 has a bigger boot as we carry a lot of horse stuff and cant nearly get as much in the 405.
SWMBO loves the 405 so that's that as usual

Fatty had it's first long drive on Friday, a 500 mile plus round trip and it behaved impeccably, was extremely comfortable with four adults on board and just eats motorway miles with ease...

Then today the first "bong of doom" and "Suspension fault Restricted performance" pops up although it ran fine, I was a few miles from home so slowed down, then "bong" again and low left rear tyre pops up, then just as I'm getting home the third "bong" this time just to let me know it was colder than 4c... Let's hope they don't come in threes every time...!!

So plugged in the IID and

C1A13-64 (2E) Pressure does not decrease when venting gallery - Algorithm based failure - signal plausibility failure

also several canbus faults across various modules...

So I was just thinking when I would dive in there and sort the compressor filter out when it occurred to me that I have a warranty (don't think I've ever had one before...lol) so I called JLR Assistance and a short while later a very nice man arrived, parked behind fatty on the drive, read the codes, diagnosed the filter, he cleaned it out (see how long that lasts) then noticed that three modules needed software updates as someone had updated some modules in the past but not done all they should...

He then wanted to go for a test drive so backed his van up the drive, by now it was chucking it down, he backed up the road and reversed straight into a street light, knocking it over about 30degrees and knocking the top off... It now looks like the light off "Top Cat" as it's flashing on and off as the top is hanging by the lead...

The test drive went well with no faults coming back so that's the important thing...

I hope every fault is as easy to deal with, but maybe without the other excitement...

These warrantees are great...

I love this car, it's everything I hoped and more....  Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

That’s good then Pete. Progress is progress. I just get the impression I’d miss the L322 like crazy. Though I very much like the idea of the Signature hifi and a panoramic roof. Only other thing that enters my head sometimes is whether the Sport would be nice for a change… wash my mouth out 🤣. It just looks well in certain colours and a bit more squat…. Though it was cheaper new than the 405, they look similar prices now….. so the 405 is still more bang for your buck…. But… as we know, someone will pull up beside you in a fullfatrr and you’ll be thinking 🤔🤣.

Mostly only me in the car… must be getting old 🤣🤣

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

If you are not ready to change then don't try out a 405.....  Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-