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JayGee



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

ULEZ is £12.50 a day. I use the car on average 3 times a week so £2k per year. No discount for residents.
Insurance is £1200 as it's also insured for business use and I can't park it at home (even with full NCD and clean licence.)
That's a pretty hard hit as well.
I do about 15K miles per year and mostly M-Way which is working out at 30mpg over the last 3 months which is is one of the things I can live with.
Servicing costs are no real difference to any other car so that's not a concern either.
List of things to fix is debatable as I could just run it as is an save £3500. I also have a £1500 contingency fee for unexpected issues ( Have my suspicions about the alternator , AC compressor, suspension compressor)
If I was going to keep it for a good few years I'd expect spending a lot now to fix it would mean next years spend would be less but the insurance and ULEZ just keep accumulating....
It's not like I didn't know this when I bought it BTW or that I can't afford it. I'm just rationalising what I'm prepared to spend vs what I get from owning an L322. I totally get why the L322 is special and if I let it go it will still likley go down as the best car I've ever owned. About to drive to my first job of 2022 in a few mins and can't wait.... 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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RRV8SC



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Strewth! Makes you wonder sometimes what the difference is between a road charge and a fine!

Post #618810 5th Jan 2022 9:42am
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LandyGee



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Re: It's been great but thinking of letting it go...

JayGee wrote:
Setting out my spreadsheet of doom I can see that running costs this year will nudge £10k. That's £5k for fuel, Tax, ULEZ and insurance, £5k on servicing and planned parts replacements and a contingency fund. Absolutely loved the 3 months and 5k I've had so far in it but I'm struggling to justify the future costs and am seriously considering cutting my losses sooner rather than later.
If I trade it in + £7k I reckon I could get something else and save about £7k in running costs per year. ULEZ compliance alone saves £2k.
Big Cry Big Cry Big Cry


5k on servicing costs? Crikey Moses! I’m currently considering taking the plunge on a 4.4 but had budgeted max of 2k per year on servicing. However, fear of something significant going ‘pop’ is currently putting me off! Would love one though!

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FlyingTrotter



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Santorini Black

Mine is a pretty similar experience albeit servicing was nearer £3.5k despite front suspension issues needing addressing in 2021

I have ordered a new L460 and will keep the L322 until it’s ready later this year provided no major failures - ULEZ is a pain but I think in the round the pleasures of L322 ownership outweigh the costs - had mine since Nov 2013 and it’s a Dec 2011 model and now at 105k - was 19k when I got it

Post #621436 26th Jan 2022 9:30am
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Kot



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The poster said
"£5k on servicing and planned parts replacements and a contingency fund"

Must be hell of a contingency fund!!! Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter
I would think most people replace the parts as they fail/MOT 2018 SE SDV8 4.4 Byron Blue

Post #621437 26th Jan 2022 9:30am
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JayGee



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

£5k includes a contingency fund for the unexpected. Just getting insurance quotes and it's looking like the contingency fund will include some of that.
Update on my decision to get rid of my L322 - can't afford to let it go in the current market ( used car prices up 30%) 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

Post #621438 26th Jan 2022 9:31am
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JayGee



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

Kot wrote:
The poster said
"£5k on servicing and planned parts replacements and a contingency fund"

Must be hell of a contingency fund!!! Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter
I would think most people replace the parts as they fail/MOT

I wasn't planning on replacing or repairing anything before it failed. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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Sandyt



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Buckingham Blue

Well I drive into the west end pretty much every day no ulez 2007 s/c do about 25k miles a year and spend about 3k on servicing tyres etc full business use 350 quid a year had the car 9 years its well over 200k heading to 250 cheapest car I have run cost 14 k all those years and miles ago

Post #621479 26th Jan 2022 6:59pm
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LandyGee



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3k a year on servicing??

Post #621481 26th Jan 2022 7:03pm
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Sandyt



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Yep 3k for 25k miles I do the gearbox oil every 30k change tyres when they get down to 4mm and anything that seems a bit on the way out is changed before it goes wrong including paintwork as when it needs it

Post #621482 26th Jan 2022 7:06pm
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LandyGee



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Nice one. Maybe SC is the way to go then. I reckon I do circa 15k a year.. Slightly concerned about fuel cost but meant to be more reliable than the 4.4 tdv8. I go round in circles!

Post #621484 26th Jan 2022 7:12pm
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JayGee



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

I do 15k miles a year and the fuel cost on a 5.0SC over 4.4 was substantial enough to even outweigh the ULEZ charge. <20mpg>30mpg.
To be honest 'servicing' i.e consumable parts like tyres, brakes, fluids is not too bad compared to any other similar car. It's just the big bits that go wrong that hit hard and hence it's sensible to have a good contingency fund. Nothing big is going to go on a 4.4 unless you are very unlucky like it can on the 3.6 but at 10+ yrs old things start to fail and the bills can quickly mount up. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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supershuttle



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England 2013 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Luxor

I think spreadsheets and Range Rover ownership are not natural bedfellows. Geoff

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northernmonkeyjones



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United Kingdom 2016 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Santorini Black

When I had my 322, it didn’t need anything like that amount of fettling. A couple of arms, some pads and discs, a new airbag and strut, gearbox service, tensioner, belts, idler pulleys, top hoses, and fluids and that was about it in 4+ years, but these cars are getting older now and I suppose they will need more fettling….. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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xjsracer44



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE Supercharged Java Black

But you haven’t spent the contingency fund of £1,500 so I’m not sure why you are including it in your calculation of running costs 🤷‍♂️.

Post #621856 30th Jan 2022 10:54am
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