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Kevhdkent



Member Since: 27 Oct 2021
Location: Kent
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RIP TDV8

Hi All,
After completely loving everything about the TDV8


I am now in fear that the Range Rover will join a very small list, currently of just 1, of vehicles I’ve owned but would never buy again Sad . The other being a Buell Ulysses.
Like the Buell, a year of loving the Range Rover has been outweighed by the unreliability & inconvenience of owning it.
Now, after 6 weeks without the car, of diagnostics, research, and seeking a garage to replace the faulty turbo(s), only one out of 5 independent Land Rover workshops has quoted. And at £4200 to replace the turbos, plus any ancillary work & transporting the stricken vehicle, it would appear it’s next owner will be the dismantler Sad .

Post #617032 20th Dec 2021 6:08pm
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mjdronfield



Member Since: 04 Nov 2011
Location: Derbyshire
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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

That’s not good mate. Mine is the longest I’ve kept a car. They are cracking motors… when they are working….

It’s difficult to know what to do in your situation… you could get a whole TD6 for £4200…. And it’s not likely you will recover the cost afterwards if you sell it. If you fix it, and still have faith in it, and you keep it a few years, it evens the cost out a bit… but I recon we both know where you are with that option… you’ve had enough of it now… fair comment.

I think mine has cost me the most this year, and I’ve done the least miles… 800 odd… but it’s still needed new battery…. Side steps… rear adaptive dampers, service… road tax… rear brake pipes… master cylinder…. Brake dust shield… must be about £3k….

Thumbs Up 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Post #617034 20th Dec 2021 6:39pm
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Kevhdkent



Member Since: 27 Oct 2021
Location: Kent
Posts: 69

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Thanks Mate,

I needed (need !) a comfortable towing car for use on longer drives (200+mls) not for daily about town driving, and it was GREAT !
Been struggling to find something to give the same towing performance, driving experience, comfort, and “presence” on the road.
It may Possibly be a Ford F-150, who knows …

Post #617037 20th Dec 2021 6:56pm
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Happydaze



Member Since: 30 Aug 2021
Location: Wirral
Posts: 70

United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Java Black

Feel for you, and it looks like a nice one, but...... you'll get what for it, £2k maybe, so what can you get for circa £6200 plus bits?? F150s are junk. Lightenings too. OK probably reliable but no comfort, quality (actual or perceived feeling of) or that incredible presence.

But I've never been bent over by a ffrr, so what do I know!! I've undoubtedly got that to look forward to and these days haven't got the dosh to cover it. I' m handy-ish with spanners though.

Chris

Post #617041 20th Dec 2021 7:44pm
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MartinD



Member Since: 20 Oct 2010
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 303

Scotland 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Santorini Black

What happened? Is it the 3.6? 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE - 'Black Betty'
2000 4.0 P38 HSE - 'Green Goblin' - Gone.
Audi..Mini..BMW..

Post #617046 20th Dec 2021 8:47pm
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t5pete



Member Since: 31 Aug 2020
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 114

United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Santorini Black

As above is it the 3.6 or 4.4
If it’s just the turbos I would be inclined to change them out you’ve said your self your towing finding a replacement.

From my own experience with our 4.4 if they are not kept in top form they can run into money pits but can also be brought back to a high level of maintenance.

Ours cosmetically was brilliant but obviously that’s all the previous owner could afford to do leaving the mechanical side without.
In our first year of owner shop I must have spent near 4k in parts alone with me working on the car so no labour charge and I’m at a point now where I would happily drive any where.

Post #617051 20th Dec 2021 9:09pm
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mjdronfield



Member Since: 04 Nov 2011
Location: Derbyshire
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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

It’s a 3.6 if I remember right, from previous posts.

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Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Post #617052 20th Dec 2021 9:13pm
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Kevhdkent



Member Since: 27 Oct 2021
Location: Kent
Posts: 69

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Indeed it is the 3.6 TDV8
For “swapping out” the turbos quotes are £4K+
I do not have a pit or a 4 post lift, otherwise I may be tempted myself.
Unfortunately it is not only my direct experience of this car with good service history which I have also paid thru the noise to keep up, but also seeing another RR a the only other broken down vehicle on our fateful trip, and yet another as the only stricken one on the motorway on a trip to Duxford Sad.
It seems doesn’t matter how you maintain, or what you spend, they can still find a way to bike you in the arse !

Post #617064 20th Dec 2021 11:29pm
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JayGee



Member Since: 27 Jul 2021
Location: London
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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

When I was shopping for an L322 I was looking at 3.6 vs 4.4 and worked out I needed a £5k contingency fund for turbo replacement on the 3.6 and the numbers just didn't add up. Depending on how much life there is in the rest of the car, how long you want to keep it and the state of the used car market it still 'may' be worthwhile fixing it? 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

Post #617087 21st Dec 2021 10:19am
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Kevhdkent



Member Since: 27 Oct 2021
Location: Kent
Posts: 69

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I admire your positivity.
And although the rest of the motor is pristine, and I’m looking for a long term vehicle, It simply makes no sense to me to thro £4K+ at a motor that may well fail in another area a few months down the line.
The lesson I’ve learned was eloquently put by my wife….
If you can’t afford a NEW Range Rover, then you can’t afford an old one !

Post #617090 21st Dec 2021 10:34am
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JayGee



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

If the rest is pristine I'd be very inclined to fix it. The turbo's are the major issue with these and the rest is just pot luck and no different to any other car of a similar age. I've no idea what your budget is, what you paid for it or what you have spent so far but scrapping it could be more expensive than fixing it in the long run. It's worth 'maybe' £2k scrap if you are lucky but even after spending £4.5k on new turbo's and selling it straight away you may well get more than £2k back in your pocket. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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Gsxr1250dave



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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Rang...635-2958-0

Nothing todo with me but a pair of turbos ain't to dear, my mate gets all his reconditioned locally with a new cartridge he has never had a failure. Such a shame its going for scrap

Post #617098 21st Dec 2021 12:29pm
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Jayk69



Member Since: 08 Feb 2018
Location: Daventry
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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Barolo Black

£4K for turbo replacement??
I am assuming they have not exploded into the engine so it is literally replacing the turbos?
Not sure where they get off quoting that kind of money Shocked
motor out change turbo's motor back in any shop worth there salt should be able to do that and a specialist shop in double quick time.
now i am not sure but i think this is for the pair as it does not ask you to select but £600 for a pair (Even if £600 each i think thats good) https://turbodiesel.cc/shop/turbochargers/...ukEALw_wcB

2 days labor max

or am i missing something? 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

Post #617100 21st Dec 2021 12:40pm
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V8 Bob



Member Since: 15 Mar 2018
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 357

United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Ipanema Sand

Price will depend on whether quoting for new LR turbos, Orem or rebuilt. Would be worthwhile asking what they are proposing. Then need to decide what you would like fitted. 2012 tdv8 Westminster arrived Jan 19 gone Dec 23

200 TDi discovery bobtail gone
RR classic v8 bobtail gone
300 tdi Discovery 3 dr gone

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cass



Member Since: 12 Oct 2011
Location: northumberland
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"Not sure where they get off quoting that kind of money Shocked"
Doesn't sound too daft to me.
I've done the "easy" side on one of these and I think 2 days for 1 man is a bit optimistic to complete both. I've got nothing against the reconditioned parts as a DIY proposition where you aren't paying for labour but I doubt any professionals would consider anything less than OEM parts on such a labour intensive task - who pays for the labour if there is a warranty issue?
So £1200 x 2 for OEM parts, £200 for new oil feed pipes, £200 for new oil/filters etc. then 16? hours at £50? an hour makes £3600 then VAT?
Added to the fact that most decent workshops appear to have more than enough work at the moment then I think repair looks like a great DIY prospect but it's never going to be a cheap professional rebuild.

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