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Bl4ckD0g Member Since: 16 Feb 2020 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 1322 |
I would not go to AT tyres unless you really need them. The look is subjective, but the increase in noise and the reduced road handling is notable. I only use mine on 20” wheels in Winter with the three peaks symbol but it’s not a patch on the Pirelli Scorpion Verde with noise control that I have on my 22s. They are quiet and refined with great handling. And all season as well. They performed great during super heavy rainfall on my way back from the Netherlands.
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11th Dec 2021 10:55am |
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JayGee Member Since: 27 Jul 2021 Location: London Posts: 3212 |
Thanks for the info on the grabbers which confirmed my suspicions. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322) |
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11th Dec 2021 10:59am |
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Derek Member Since: 04 Jul 2020 Location: Epsom Green Posts: 39 |
Thanks for the info - am looking at new Verde’s as well and this has made up my mind.
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11th Dec 2021 9:04pm |
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Derek Member Since: 04 Jul 2020 Location: Epsom Green Posts: 39 |
JayGee - looking at the Zeros I have on at the moment they are 255/50 instead of 255/55 - any particular reason why you are looking at 255/55s ? |
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11th Dec 2021 9:18pm |
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Bean19844 Member Since: 25 Oct 2020 Location: Essex Posts: 929 |
Depends ultimately on what style of driving your going too do. If your up and down the M1 five days a week then I'd prob just look at a normal suv tyre and not bother with any AT tyre as there's no need too have them but it also depends on where you live. If your in the top of Scotland then that's a harder choice given you'll get snow each year but if your like me and inside Londonz you'll be lucky too see 2mm snow so pretty sure a ffrr with normal road tyres should be able too handle that |
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11th Dec 2021 9:48pm |
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cass Member Since: 12 Oct 2011 Location: northumberland Posts: 734 |
I ran 2 L322s at the same time for over 20K miles 1 with AT3s and 1 with Verdes and noticed no difference in noise which did surprise me. The AT3s were a lot quieter than the Cooper weather masters I swapped the verdes for during the winter.
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11th Dec 2021 9:55pm |
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Bl4ckD0g Member Since: 16 Feb 2020 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 1322 |
There is a whopping 4db rating difference between these tyres, I find it hard to believe one cannot notice that? I have both and really do notice it, heck on 22' it should be louder. Then there is energy A and B versus E and C. Again noticeable in rolling resistance. Very odd to not notice that either.
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11th Dec 2021 10:54pm |
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Sandyt Member Since: 07 Nov 2013 Location: Wraysbury Windsor Posts: 2257 |
For what it is worth I run Michelin Pilot Sport 255 55 20 in the summer and they are the best performing tyres in wet and dry I have run ( no aquaplaning when I hit standing water in Europe at 100mph +)but a summer tyre and Goodyear Ultragrip Winters on 255 55 19 both sets of wheels and tyres are excellent. |
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12th Dec 2021 4:42am |
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cass Member Since: 12 Oct 2011 Location: northumberland Posts: 734 |
Our perception of tyre noise is influenced by so many factors from the simple things like speed, tyre size, profile, temp, pressure, road surface, wear, weather etc. to the complex things like harmonics that it is almost impossible to make an accurate comparison based on specs alone.
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12th Dec 2021 10:16am |
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Bl4ckD0g Member Since: 16 Feb 2020 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 1322 |
ROFLMAO Fake news in action right here. So the facts back up the experience, but somehow the experience is than tainted by knowing the facts. Ahem, what on earth is that about.
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12th Dec 2021 10:24am |
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JayGee Member Since: 27 Jul 2021 Location: London Posts: 3212 |
It came with 55's and I like the taller profile for a bit more comfort. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322) |
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12th Dec 2021 11:19am |
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JayGee Member Since: 27 Jul 2021 Location: London Posts: 3212 |
Previous car (Audi A6 Allroad) I ran exclusively on Goodyear F1 Asymmetrical and they were a peerless road tyre with wet grip and very nice handling all-round but as to be expected road was all they did. Due to my job I need to have a bit of off road capability. Snow and Ice less so but all seasons do seem attractive just in case.... 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322) |
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12th Dec 2021 11:24am |
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JayGee Member Since: 27 Jul 2021 Location: London Posts: 3212 |
I guess tyre noise ratings are only peak DB and the actual frequency of the noise may vary and it's the frequency that can either drive us mad or not be heard. Still undecided on Zero vs Verde all season.
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12th Dec 2021 11:35am |
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rvbush Member Since: 08 Jan 2016 Location: Leamington Spa Posts: 541 |
We have two 2010 L322 4.4 TdV8's, one is fitted with Scorpion Zero, the other with Verde all seasons, both with roughly the same tread depth and tyres are of similar age. The Scorpion Zero is unquestionably the more refined tyre if that's what you want. I can't really tell any other difference. Drives:
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12th Dec 2021 3:09pm |
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