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Grayson Welly



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Steering wheel height adjustment

This is failing and I have been advised by LR that it's a £3,000ish job due to the cost of a replacement motor and accessing it in an awkward place. What alternatives are available to me to restore the functionally, other than fixing it in place? --------
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Post #613078 18th Nov 2021 7:13pm
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Pawl



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Tell us what you mean by "failing" ? Paul,
2001 Discovery 2 TD5, 211,000 miles & climbing
2006 FFRR TDV8 Vogue 151,000 miles & now sold
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Grayson Welly



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It essentially collapses into the lowest position and won't raise --------
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Pawl



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What do you mean by collapse ? Does it fall under gravity if ligted up OR does it power itself down to the lowest setting ? Paul,
2001 Discovery 2 TD5, 211,000 miles & climbing
2006 FFRR TDV8 Vogue 151,000 miles & now sold
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Grayson Welly



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It remains at the lowest height, the tilt function no longer operates. --------
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Pawl



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There could be various causes - including the complete lift motor OR much simpler, the special nut at the top of the adjustment thread OR the mechanical brackets that hold the mechanism.
If the failure happened before you're ownership of the car, it could be as simple as the motor has been electrically disconnected (sometimes done to avoid future failure or disable the "lazy entry" feature.

If its the motor, your only options are either a new column with both lift & reach motors & the complete mechanism (££££) OR a secondhand replacement column at approx £300 ~ £400 (they are often on ebay).
Fitting would be extra & allegedly could be done by LR trained mechanics in 3 or 4 hours originally when they had a Campaign Recall to change them all on early Pre-Facelift cars. I think if not experienced it would take a lot longer - lol.

If the problem is the special nut, the lift mechanism can often work OK if the lazy entry option is disabled & the motor is electrically connected. The nut can be replaced separately now - I believe there's someone manufacturing a replacement part via 3D printing in Germany. I think replacing the nut is only viable if you're into heavy DIY.

If the "failure" was caused by someone disconnecting the motor to avoid problems (our car was like this when we bought it a few years ago), it could be as simple as removing the flexible shroud above the motors & re-connecting the electrical plugs & maybe disabling lazy entry via a Diagnostic tool.

If the problem is caused by the mechanical brackets that hold the column to the dash, some have managed to "bodge" repairs to hold it in place - but I doubt any dealer would get involved unless they were very confident in the robustness of their "fix". So possibly DIYable, but more likely replacement column required. Paul,
2001 Discovery 2 TD5, 211,000 miles & climbing
2006 FFRR TDV8 Vogue 151,000 miles & now sold
Member of Midland (Land) Rover Owners Club, www.mroc.co.uk


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klj



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3000 British Pounds? They're having a Turkish. An Indy can easily strip the relevant bits of the dash and either sort or tell you what is needed. Worse case it might be the motor, most likely the toggle switch imo. Specialist breakers next step. Good luck with it . ----------------
2010 RR tdv8 3.6 ( gone but not forgotten ...)
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2004 RR 4.4 V8 (M62) -gone but not forgotten (sob)
1998 P38 RR - least said the better
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Grayson Welly



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It hasn't been disconnected, as it has risen during our brief ownership. At the moment, it'll only raise if I 'encourage' it upwards, but will drop again due to the convenience function. I believe that I need the iid tool and software to disable this, which I don't own at present. --------
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Pawl



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Without further investigation, there's still plenty of causes & various solutions.

If the column can be persuaded to go up the position you'd like to drive in electrically & doesn't just drop back immediately, you could go for the simple & free option of selecting the correct height & then disconnecting the electrical plug - thereby disabling the lazy entry feature.
This is easily DIYable with only simple tools and lots of RRs are running around like this (& being sold on - lol)

If you want a fully functioning height adjustment (ie to restore the lazy entry option) OR the colulmn won't physically stay in position & can be easily moved up & down by lifting the steering wheel with your hands, you need a replacement column.
It's then your choice how you get the column replaced - moderately expensive using second hand parts yourself upto very expensive if using new parts and a dealer to do the work.
BTW I'd never trust any Range Rover to any garage that doesn't regularly deal with them. It's too likely that you'll get a car back with other problems because they don't undrstand the complexity. Paul,
2001 Discovery 2 TD5, 211,000 miles & climbing
2006 FFRR TDV8 Vogue 151,000 miles & now sold
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Grayson Welly



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Thank you Pawl. It has deteriorated quite rapidly and as of today is happy to remain in the lowest position, which is actually a little annoying as I cannot see the speedo needle between 50 and 120 or so and also rubs my thighs a little in the raised seating position which I enjoy. --------
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Pawl



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You're lucky, when mine first went wrong it lowered itself down & jammed my legs onto the seat Shocked Paul,
2001 Discovery 2 TD5, 211,000 miles & climbing
2006 FFRR TDV8 Vogue 151,000 miles & now sold
Member of Midland (Land) Rover Owners Club, www.mroc.co.uk

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Grayson Welly



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So what are my options from here? Replace myself or ask a specialist to replace?

Also, to replace with used or replace with new?

Are there any modifications available for the threaded bar which will prevent this from happening in future on a used motor? --------
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Grayson Welly



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What an amusing car. Today the steering wheel raised when asked then lowered again after I had locked and unlocked the car.

Is the disconnection of easy access a fuse or a plug into the motor? --------
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Pawl



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I think it's just 3 screws that are accessible from underneath the plastic shroud, then lift the top half upwards & off & you should be able to see maybe 2 electrical connectors to the column motors. 1 is the lift , 1 is the reach. You may need to disconnect each in turn to work out which one is the lift 1 you want to leave disconnected, Paul,
2001 Discovery 2 TD5, 211,000 miles & climbing
2006 FFRR TDV8 Vogue 151,000 miles & now sold
Member of Midland (Land) Rover Owners Club, www.mroc.co.uk

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Grayson Welly



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That's super, thanks. I've just seen a video in powerful-uk's youtube channel and there are three torx screws to remove, of which there are two different sized heads.

The alternative way to do it, it to use the Gap IID tool to disable the easy entry function, but this may not be ideal if the adjustment is knackered. Best to just select a resting place a live with it. --------
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