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Fifth Horseman

Member Since: 04 Jul 2016
Location: Lanarkshire
Posts: 230

2018 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Carpathian Grey

Adding Timed/Remote Climate to 2017 model - it can be done

After missing this from my D4,I decided to see if it could be done on the 2017 models which have the later Incontrol Touch Pro (widescreen) ICE and Eberspächer FFBH fitted but not configured as a park heater. (2018 onwards will be different as I believe these are fitted with the Webasto Heater.)
The answer is YES it can, but is not as plug and play as earlier models. It seems that if the vehicle was not delivered with the timed climate feature then the wiring for the remote receiver in the rear of the vehicle is not present and so some wiring needs to be added and a suitable location found for the remote receiver and antenna. Also the valve and associated plumbing which diverts the water from the FFBH to circulate solely around the heater circuit is not present, although strangely the wiring is, - this is not critical as we shall see later.

Items needed:
Working copy of JLR Pathfinder software - free to download but requires working Topix subscription.
DoIP interface for programming vehicle. (Unfortunately this cannot currently be done with the IID tool)
CCF editing software I believe the G3/4 version of the IIDTool with the latest software can now do the required CCF edits.
Remote Plip LR083895 (LR branded) or LR033464 (RR branded) - either will work but usually the LR branded one is cheaper.

Remote Receiver LR033462 (CPLA-18D540-AA)

Antenna for receiver (a glass mount 433MHZ antenna with Fakra I type connector will work)

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To start, as there was no wiring fitted for the FFBH receiver I needed to find somewhere to install it. I settled for the compartment behind the FFBH, attached with double sided tape.

The power feed was tapped from the FFBH supply on the FFBH harness with a separate fuse. As I had a contact insert I fitted this to the socket on the vehicle loom for the receiver data connection, this could also be tapped into the FFBH harness.

You will also need to source a connector for the receiver, I was lucky as I had one to hand.

After a few experiments for positioning I mounted the antenna on the plastic housing for the radiator shutters, next to the horns. Range is good enough to use from indoors. (I've not tried an absolute range check). Don’t mount it on a metal surface otherwise the range will likely be reduced to feet.

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If you wish, you can add the extra plumbing and diverter valve, this needs the heater to be removed and although I have the parts I still have not gotten atone to doing this. Without the diverter valve the HVAC will give an error saying the valve is faulty but have no effect on operation (as on the D4)

Using Pathfinder and the CCF editor set the following parameters:
# Parameter Description Value
33 [EUCD 022] ADDITIONAL HEATER 0x03 Fuel Fired Parking Heater (FFPH)
79 [EUCD 056] Callstart of Parking Heater 0x03 Callstart of Parking eater accessory only (via radio)

Save the CCF back to the vehicle, a software update to the HVAC may be prompted.

Still within Pathfinder, within the IMC section, select “Learn CCF” - without this the timed climate option will not be displayed.

Check for and clear any fault codes, if you haven’t installed the diverter valve there will be one related to this;
B12B2-13 (6C) Auxiliary heater coolant diverter valve - General electrical failure - circuit open
it is safe to ignore this.

The heater remote should now work as if factory fitted.

The remote plip does give some feedback:
Green flashing after pressing a button indicates the command was received
Red flashing indicates an error condition, either a fault, command not acknowledged or plip battery low.

Last edited by Fifth Horseman on 18th Nov 2024 12:37pm. Edited 1 time in total

7th Jul 2021 12:24pm

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put into the wiki next to the 2014 version..thanks. ... - .- -.

Y. O. L. O.
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7th Jul 2021 12:46pm

spbee

Member Since: 25 Jul 2021
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 34

Re: Adding Timed/Remote Climate to 2017 model - it can be do

'Antenna for receiver (a glass mount 433MHZ antenna with Fakra I type connector will work)'

Where did you source the antenna from m8 ? I cant find one with a type I for the life of me

2nd Aug 2021 7:30pm

Fifth Horseman

Member Since: 04 Jul 2016
Location: Lanarkshire
Posts: 230

Unfortunately I can't remember where I got the antenna from. It doesn't need to be a type I connector, a type Z (universal) will also do the job. I used a type I as I wanted to to match the connector on the receiver.
If I was doing it again I would most likely get the antenna and connector separately:
https://www.rfsolutions.co.uk/antennas-c8/...tenna-p129
or https://linitx.com/product/teltonika-lte-a...f435/15631
and https://www.co-star.co.uk/1147/fakra-femal...-bth-f174/
or https://www.co-star.co.uk/1173/fakra-femal...-neu-f174/

2nd Aug 2021 8:23pm

spbee

Member Since: 25 Jul 2021
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 34

great TYVM will grab one with a Z end (i forgot they were universal !) and have a crack at it

2nd Aug 2021 8:25pm

spbee

Member Since: 25 Jul 2021
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 34

Last question i promise!

is there a connector designation for the electrical plug for the modulke ?

2nd Aug 2021 8:27pm

Cam-Tech-Craig

Member Since: 03 Aug 2011
Location: Gloucestershire
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2015 Range Rover SVAutobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Great work sir

2nd Aug 2021 11:29pm

Fifth Horseman

Member Since: 04 Jul 2016
Location: Lanarkshire
Posts: 230

spbee wrote:
Last question i promise!

is there a connector designation for the electrical plug for the modulke ?

Connector body is Landrover part no YPC915820, it is made by TE Connectivity (Tyco) I think part number 1355082-3 but most suppliers seem to only do them with minimum order 1000+
The connector inserts I used were ones I had at work that fitted, I believe the Tyco part number for these is 5-928999-5 for wire size 0.25-0.35mm2 or 5-963715-5 for wire 0.3-0.5mm2

4th Aug 2021 3:32pm

spbee

Member Since: 25 Jul 2021
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 34

brilliant thanks for your help.

iv e got all the other bits so i'll crack on with it when i get hold of a connector

4th Aug 2021 5:12pm

spbee

Member Since: 25 Jul 2021
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 34

All done and tested on my 2015 , did all the CCF changes using a GAP tool.

Cant wait for the winter now to take advantage :p

Thans for all the help and pointers.

Steve

9th Aug 2021 1:14pm

spbee

Member Since: 25 Jul 2021
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 34

this also works for pre 2017 vehicles

3rd Sep 2021 3:08pm

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