Ah, ok. Thanks.

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Mine is booked in at a Garage in Spain tomorrow.

Okay, so new starter fitted. Still got issues. New battery fitted. All okay now

Other than I am €900 down almost

I replaced the starter on our 4.4 TDV8 almost 2 years ago now.

All I needed to remove was the undertray. The starter motor came out between the gaps in the tubular subframe. I didn’t need to remove a wheel, arch liner or anything else. You do need to be able to get under the car to do it that way though.

I reckon it took me 30 mins to get it out including removing the undertray and probably about the same to put it back on.

One of the easiest jobs I’ve ever done on the Full Fat.

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

Thank you.

If I had been at home in the UK, I would of tried it maybe. To be fair, I’ve plenty of other jobs to do here anyway. And the sun is shining . I will detail the costa later.

Mine's just started playing up so I've been looking to get it replaced. Is there a reason why everyone is going for the Denso replacement rather than the oem product? Is it just price?

My local indy only wants to use a LR starter. Given mine has already had one starter replaced, I'm not particularly enthusiastic especially as it's priced at over £400. 2010 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE

Opie oils sell the Denso unit at a very good price, and just for today are offering 15% off.
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V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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Out of Stock unfortunately!

I have found one for £245 at Micksgarage.com. Anyone used them?

My Indy has agreed to fit one if I supply it now which I wasn't expecting! 2010 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE

Shaun wrote:

The cable I replaced was the smaller one from the start relay in the fuse box to the solenoid, too much of a volt drop on it. Spliced a new one in the fuse box near the relay and found a convenient run down to the starter.

Just to let you all know, the second replacement Starter has been fine.

The original factory fit one was a Denso as far as I’m aware.

When ours failed the LR supplied one that I removed was a Denso and the one I fitted from Euro Car Parts was a Denso.

Euro Car Parts had the Denso one in stock at our local branch when I ordered ours so they obviously get through enough of them.

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

my experience with this issue has been..... bought car, at 196k, and discovered the intermittent starting issue.. tiny click, and no 'clunk' or whirr. removed starter, teasing it out to the side, past the roll bar, with wheel hanging down..with I think solenoid facing front of car, as not coming out other way... dismantled solenoid, and saw very black terminals... filed them, and reassembled. went first time... and may more times, all ok.... thought it was ok, as had no more no-starts.... until about a week ago, (199k) got an odd no-start... but couldn't be sure it was me not timing my finger press correctly.... and then next day, the worst ever one. -took an hour and half to eventually go again, fortunately at a petrol pump, at 1am, so no holding up etc... got under, and tapped it a good few times, just incase, with wheel brace, then large hammer, leant to me... wasn't having it.... so a short snooze, and then tried it. (1.5hrs!) it eventually went, and as id guessed this might happen, and wanted to prove the fact, seemed like it occurs when car is quite warm, and you return to car within 10 mins of leaving it... So, I bought a secondhand starter, just so I could prove the issue, then I would/will invest the £400 for a new one. -only £35 so worth a gamble.. its been on a few days, and issue has gone away. (for now!).

watch this space.

I have pre-emptively installed a motor bike starter relay at the starter solenoid to power the starter solenoid from the main battery cable, using the solenoid trigger wire to trigger the motor bike relay. The solenoid now very positively closes its contacts and the starter jumps to life starting the engine immediately. Mitsubishi Electrics fits the extra relay to its after market truck starter motors to ensure that the solenoids get full voltage so that the life of the solenoids isn't compromised by poor vehicle wiring. Our vehicles have poor wiring for the solenoid, being very undersized for the current draw for the wire length.

totally agree

Whilst my starting has greatly improved and many gremlin solved with wiring work and new relays I feel the solonoid contact can be further improved specially with battery voltage on the low side (still havent fixed the parasytic drain)

What is a good brand setup you would recommend? also where did you pick up the signal?

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johnboyairey wrote:

my experience with this issue has been..... bought car, at 196k, and discovered the intermittent starting issue.. tiny click, and no 'clunk' or whirr. removed starter, teasing it out to the side, past the roll bar, with wheel hanging down..with I think solenoid facing front of car, as not coming out other way... dismantled solenoid, and saw very black terminals... filed them, and reassembled. went first time... and may more times, all ok.... thought it was ok, as had no more no-starts.... until about a week ago, (199k) got an odd no-start... but couldn't be sure it was me not timing my finger press correctly.... and then next day, the worst ever one. -took an hour and half to eventually go again, fortunately at a petrol pump, at 1am, so no holding up etc... got under, and tapped it a good few times, just incase, with wheel brace, then large hammer, leant to me... wasn't having it.... so a short snooze, and then tried it. (1.5hrs!) it eventually went, and as id guessed this might happen, and wanted to prove the fact, seemed like it occurs when car is quite warm, and you return to car within 10 mins of leaving it... So, I bought a secondhand starter, just so I could prove the issue, then I would/will invest the £400 for a new one. -only £35 so worth a gamble.. its been on a few days, and issue has gone away. (for now!).

watch this space.