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TDV8_Tommy



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Spain 2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Baltic Blue
2010+ Front wiper arm removal

Hi all,

I want to remove and refurbish both front wiper arms but I cannot remove the drivers side one, not even attempted the p/s yet...

I’ve looked thru the workshop manual and it speaks of a clip that needs to be removed after the bolts been taken off. I can’t see any clip, just the bolt. With the bolt off it won’t budge at all.

I’ve done a search and watched a few YouTube clips and it appears the later L322s have different fixings to that of earlier ones?

Any pointers well received! Thumbs Up

Tom. 2012 4.4 TDV8 Westminster - Baltic Blue, Jet interior
1997 P38 2.5 DSE auto & 1998 P38 2.5 DT Manual
1988 Vogue 3.5 EFI - Manual, gone.
2004 Volvo C70 2.0T convertible, had since new.
2007 Mazda MX-5 2.0 Sport Roadster/Coupé, had since new.
2024 Mini Cooper S cabrio, JCW kit, 2.0, DCT auto

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mjdronfield



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

I’m interested in the answer to this one. My wiper motor failed a couple of years ago, and the garage I used broke their puller trying to get the wiper arms off. They gave up in the end, and just fitted my new motor to the old linkage..... I too thought they should come off once the nut was undone.....

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Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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TDV8_Tommy



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I did buy a puller specifically to do the job, assuming it would fit. Nope. Far too small, not enough reach even when unwound to the fullest. And I don’t think longer ones are available. 2012 4.4 TDV8 Westminster - Baltic Blue, Jet interior
1997 P38 2.5 DSE auto & 1998 P38 2.5 DT Manual
1988 Vogue 3.5 EFI - Manual, gone.
2004 Volvo C70 2.0T convertible, had since new.
2007 Mazda MX-5 2.0 Sport Roadster/Coupé, had since new.
2024 Mini Cooper S cabrio, JCW kit, 2.0, DCT auto

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mjdronfield



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

I’ve just looked at the Workshop Manual and I think the clip they mention is for the wiper arm to the wiper blade, so that may be a red herring.

I wonder if they seize onto the splines. My garage soaked them in release agent... still wouldn’t come off. 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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they do seize up ...i couldnt get my one off on my westie even using pullers..... ... - .- -.




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northernmonkeyjones



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United Kingdom 2016 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Santorini Black

yep, couldn't get mine off either when I wanted to change the slightly rusty wipers, ended up giving up and just swapping the blades. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
FFRR 4.4 SDV8 Autobiography Santorini Black.
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Haylands



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There is no clip, they are the same as the earlier ones, I managed to get both off when I had the windscreen done a couple of months ago, it took a large puller, an incredible amount of force was needed, the puller has a 6-7inch bar and I used an extension on it, the trick is to give it a bit and then wait, keep giving it a few mm extra every 30 seconds or so, by this stage you are playing a tune as the puller is under so much pressure it pings when you give it some...

They both surrendered after a while but it probably took about as long to get them off as the fitters took to change the screen...

I did it myself as I wanted to damage it if that's what it took... if you can't do it yourself it might be an idea to get a windscreen replacement company to remove them, they do it all day long... Thumbs Up Pete
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2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
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Merchy



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Zermatt Silver

All I can add to Haylands good advice is the old trick - if you have the time to spare and the job is not urgent.
Try some penetrating oil, on a daily basis, for several days, up to a week. A pain I know and in Haylands case probably would have meant diddley squat, but it does help at times. Thumbs Up

PS - That 'ping' noise is horrible when it sounds like you have just cracked the shaft Big Cry

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TDV8_Tommy



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Thanks all, I’ll try the slow approach with consecutive days of soaking in penetrating oil.

It just seems so silly! So RR. 2012 4.4 TDV8 Westminster - Baltic Blue, Jet interior
1997 P38 2.5 DSE auto & 1998 P38 2.5 DT Manual
1988 Vogue 3.5 EFI - Manual, gone.
2004 Volvo C70 2.0T convertible, had since new.
2007 Mazda MX-5 2.0 Sport Roadster/Coupé, had since new.
2024 Mini Cooper S cabrio, JCW kit, 2.0, DCT auto

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Haylands



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I had used penetrating oil for over a week before, there was absolutely no evidence of any of it within the fitting after it succumbed to extreme violence, hence why I never mentioned it... the taper joint is just too tight...!!! Pete
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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

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Merchy



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I didn't know it was a taper joint, know what you mean, the oil would then be useless.

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Haylands



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It's a fine spline taper joint made of some type of alloy and is corroded together... Thumbs Up Pete
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2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

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Goldstar



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2011 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Stornoway Grey

Bit of thread resurrection here.

Can anyone please confirm if the wiper arms changed over the production run please? I need to replace mine (passenger side popped off the link, stopped mid stroke and the driver side smashed into it breaking the tabs on the aero bit and making it next to useless despite gorilla glue intervention). I could just change the plastic aero bit if that’s available separately.

60 plate TDV8 4.4

Thanks

Thanks

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oggy



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Java Black

hi all happy new year. i always use diesel to soften the alloy white powder that bonds the spline together I put a hand towel around to stop the mess and spray it with a load of diesel. or you can use standard thinners with a brush and soak it in that. when its had a good soaking grab hold of the lower arm and pull it up to put tension on it and give the round part a good hit with a hammer I use a body hammer with a square end and lift it up and down while hitting it and keep spraying diesel on it while you shock it she will go after a good bit of sweating later works for me anyway a good wire brush I use a Dremel to clean up and use an anti-corrosion grease suitable for alloy parts .when putting back and use an a4 stainless steel nut to replace the old steel one. and don't forget to set the angle of the driver's side wiper when you put it back together. also, mark the blade with a bit of masking tape on the screen so she stops in the same place. when you resemble the arms new vehicle purchase
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range rover classic 200 tdi
discovery 1 200 tdi
freelander 2 2008 hse
discovery 1 300 tdi
p38 4.0 ltr man r380 ex royal support vehicle on v5c
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Goldstar



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Thanks for the reply, I have the arm off, courtesy of a 2 arm puller (the noise was a bit of a shock) so just need to know if thee arms changed during the production run. I somehow doubt it but just wanted to check.

Cheers Dec 2021- 2010 Facelift TDV8 4.4 AB in Stornoway Grey.

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