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AJGalaxy2012

Member Since: 11 Jun 2018
Location: Gainsborough
Posts: 1464

2012 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Bonatti Grey

Brave man, good luck, watching with interest. BMW i3 Electric Car
2012 Full Fat RR 4.4 TDV8 (now gone)
2006 VW Touareg 3.0 TDi V6

4th Mar 2021 3:19am

Fat Lad

Member Since: 13 Aug 2020
Location: Cambridge
Posts: 18

2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Baltic Blue

steve57060 wrote:
Managed to find kit for mod LR045004 on ebay
Coming from germany at £80 inc delivery
Will hopefully be starting job next week

Please follow up if you get the chance Steve, noticed a big plume on ours for the first time last week so I suspect this job is on the horizon.

Good luck!

Ritch 1996 Disco 1 3.9 V8 on gas (Sadly Sold)
1996 Disco 1 300 TDI S (Thankfully Sold)
2004 Disco 2 TD5 ES (Sadly Sold)
2005 Disco 3 TDV6 HSE (Thankfully Sold)

2011 RR Vogue SE TDV8

4th Mar 2021 8:47pm

GGDR

Member Since: 26 Nov 2016
Location: London
Posts: 3542

2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Stornoway Grey

steve57060 wrote:
Greg thanks for pic Noticed previous links to this mod that you were looking at getting yours done
Did you ever do it and what were the results

Nah, I've no garage and not only do you need a garage, you really need a ramp.
If I had those, I'd be there 100%

I initially concluded, looking at that sump pic and the gallery circled, that you would be drilling into the gallery alone.

But reading the instructions a few more times gave me a feeling you do have to drill though the two walls and into the main sump chamber.

Whilst Graeme's right about swarf pulling backwards, it's aluminium swarf and if any gets into the sump the magnet (assuming there is a magnet) won't pick it.

£80's a nice sweetener though!

AJG had studied your pics many a time but I hadn't seen the subframe dropped. Impressive in itself. Thing is if the subframe's dropped, I wonder why you wouldn't whip the sump off, sort the drain, flush it all and refit....? Dunno. Probably a good reason but worth thinking though...

. Cheers, Greg
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2011 Vogue SE 4.4 with lots of toys in Stornaway

4th Mar 2021 10:11pm

AJGalaxy2012

Member Since: 11 Jun 2018
Location: Gainsborough
Posts: 1464

I suppose I probably would drop the sump as you say. Just thinking it through though, how likely is dwarf going to get in the sump? Highly unlikely if care is taken, if it did how much would get through the strainer and if that did happen a tiny fragment of soft aluminium how much damage would happen. I think the chances are zero.
I’d still drop the sump though if I was doing it 😂 BMW i3 Electric Car
2012 Full Fat RR 4.4 TDV8 (now gone)
2006 VW Touareg 3.0 TDi V6

5th Mar 2021 9:10am

JCW

Member Since: 13 Apr 2013
Location: Cotswolds
Posts: 863

2010 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Santorini Black

Dwarf in the sump is definitely not good!

5th Mar 2021 9:52am

GGDR

Member Since: 26 Nov 2016
Location: London
Posts: 3542

I mean if he could sort out better draining I'm fine with it..

AJG
. Cheers, Greg
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2011 Vogue SE 4.4 with lots of toys in Stornaway

5th Mar 2021 10:09am

Edward

Member Since: 17 Sep 2016
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 12

Hi, what sort of oil consumption are people experiencing with this problem?

5th Mar 2021 7:10pm

steve57060

Member Since: 03 Oct 2018
Location: Derby - Nottm
Posts: 14

Oil consumption is not noticeable as amount in sump is vast
Just would like to sort this to tick of list
Not very desirable when you do push it
Already done o rings, oil cooler seal exhaust temp sensor
Looking at keeping car as nothing will be built like this again (massive torque)
Still cant tick off sat nav upgrade and battery low please start engine (mission too far) 2017 sdv8 4.4 vogue
2011 4.4 tdv8 (present)
2005 td6 vogue
2001 4.6 vogue (lpg conversion)
1999 2.5 diesel vogue (slowest car ever driven)
1996 4.6 vogue
Plus a couple of freelanders

5th Mar 2021 10:35pm

AJGalaxy2012

Member Since: 11 Jun 2018
Location: Gainsborough
Posts: 1464

JCW wrote:
Dwarf in the sump is definitely not good!

LOL, big fingers, small keys on the phone, no dwarfs were harmed in the mod. BMW i3 Electric Car
2012 Full Fat RR 4.4 TDV8 (now gone)
2006 VW Touareg 3.0 TDi V6

6th Mar 2021 5:45am

Edward

Member Since: 17 Sep 2016
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 12

steve57060 wrote:
Oil consumption is not noticeable as amount in sump is vast
Just would like to sort this to tick of list
Not very desirable when you do push it
Already done o rings, oil cooler seal exhaust temp sensor
Looking at keeping car as nothing will be built like this again (massive torque)
Still cant tick off sat nav upgrade and battery low please start engine (mission too far)

Fair enough, I am thinking the same about mine (keeping it). I have the engine out of mine currently to fix general oil leaks and to find the source of quite a significant usage of oil - about 1.5 L in 200 miles... Lucky it does have such a vast sump!

6th Mar 2021 7:11am

GGDR

Member Since: 26 Nov 2016
Location: London
Posts: 3542

Edward set up a post, not that many engines come out, well not many here... we'd love to learn about your findings. Assume you have a 4.4TDV8 ?

Quote:
Looking at keeping car as nothing will be built like this again (massive torque)

Twin turbo diesel V8 - a titan that is unlikely to return

. Cheers, Greg
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2011 Vogue SE 4.4 with lots of toys in Stornaway

6th Mar 2021 7:45am

steve57060

Member Since: 03 Oct 2018
Location: Derby - Nottm
Posts: 14

Taken time to reply as needed to test result. Good news seems to be no more smoke above 3000 rpm.
Dont go there very often as no necessity. Managed to get kit from Germany eventually as it was retuned to sender first time for incorrect paperwork due to brexit. Eventually arrived at acost of £120 (still less than half price! The job itself was straightforward by removing LH driveshaft Etc. The main problem is the diiff is in the way of drilling. The diff cannot be removed without unbolting whole subframe and using jack to push it downwards. Once diff is moved forward access for drilling
the job is pretty straight forward using guide supplied with kit. Didnt remove steering column as may require resetting. Did whole job over couple of weeks as car sorn as it is only used for towing. Cant believe drain would cure problem but as everyone says turbos dont really go on the 4.4. 2017 sdv8 4.4 vogue
2011 4.4 tdv8 (present)
2005 td6 vogue
2001 4.6 vogue (lpg conversion)
1999 2.5 diesel vogue (slowest car ever driven)
1996 4.6 vogue
Plus a couple of freelanders

29th Apr 2021 10:17pm

AJGalaxy2012

Member Since: 11 Jun 2018
Location: Gainsborough
Posts: 1464

I'm with you on the disbelief, how can it really make that much difference...... but it does!

Well done that man, you did a very cheap fix there. BMW i3 Electric Car
2012 Full Fat RR 4.4 TDV8 (now gone)
2006 VW Touareg 3.0 TDi V6

30th Apr 2021 4:39am

landy95

Member Since: 04 Aug 2021
Location: Hall Green, West Midlands
Posts: 79

2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Orkney Grey

steve57060 wrote:
Taken time to reply as needed to test result. Good news seems to be no more smoke above 3000 rpm.
Dont go there very often as no necessity. Managed to get kit from Germany eventually as it was retuned to sender first time for incorrect paperwork due to brexit. Eventually arrived at acost of £120 (still less than half price! The job itself was straightforward by removing LH driveshaft Etc. The main problem is the diiff is in the way of drilling. The diff cannot be removed without unbolting whole subframe and using jack to push it downwards. Once diff is moved forward access for drilling
the job is pretty straight forward using guide supplied with kit. Didnt remove steering column as may require resetting. Did whole job over couple of weeks as car sorn as it is only used for towing. Cant believe drain would cure problem but as everyone says turbos dont really go on the 4.4.

You wouldnt happen to have the details of where you bought the kit from, if they are still available i will pick one up also.
Cheers. Also own a 1976 Land Rover 101 3.5 V8.
Previously owned 1991 Range Rover Vogue 3.9 V8.

6th Sep 2022 8:21pm

steve57060

Member Since: 03 Oct 2018
Location: Derby - Nottm
Posts: 14

Hi The item was on ebay in Germany at a garage clearance. There was a problem with Brexit paperwork but eventually arrived. The sellers were reluctant to send as all the paperwork had to be done by them. I think it was for the L405 but with a bit of bending it fitted OK. Can recommend as no smoke whatsoever now (minor miracle) for just 1 pipe. Well worth the effort. Think Maltings do mod kit but you will have to check
Regards Steve 2017 sdv8 4.4 vogue
2011 4.4 tdv8 (present)
2005 td6 vogue
2001 4.6 vogue (lpg conversion)
1999 2.5 diesel vogue (slowest car ever driven)
1996 4.6 vogue
Plus a couple of freelanders

7th Sep 2022 9:18am

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