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ctjfb



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2008 TDV8 Engine earth strap

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Whilst poking about under the car today - actually intending to take a peek inside the RH Intercooler inlet pipe to check for oil etc. I happened to notice that the earth strap had completely disintegrated ...

Surprisingly there have been no faults or starting difficulties ... I hate to think what has been carrying all that load Sad

I would say it's well worth having a look at the strap if you are ever under the covers !! If mine was like this, I would expect many others are too ...

Chris
FF TDV8 3.6

Post #524278 9th Aug 2019 4:52pm
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S.Hafsmo



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Norway 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Orkney Grey

There are quite a lot of straps on these. One of my straps on the exhaust looked similar to yours.
Where can I see the depicted strap? Underneith, RH side? 2007 L322 3.6 TDV8 Stornoway

Post #524299 9th Aug 2019 7:07pm
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ctjfb



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This one is the main Engine/Chassis strap on the RH side near the engine mounting.

Chris

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Arbuckle



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 V8 Fuji White

Salt accelerated corrosion on the woven type straps. Can look good visually but disintegrate when pulled.
Once treated a replacement one with waxoyl before fitting and was still good fifteen years later, shame the bodywork eventually rotted out. Forty years of progress. 1972-2012

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S.Hafsmo



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Norway 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Orkney Grey

Anyone know the part number for the straps? 2007 L322 3.6 TDV8 Stornoway

Post #524314 9th Aug 2019 8:12pm
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ctjfb



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I had a quick look for a part number but didn’t find one.

I’m just using a generic 35mm2 (180A) 30cm long copper strap.

Chris

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nicedayforit



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England 2004 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Giverny Green

That's why I have fitted an additional 35mm² insulated earth strap from the engine/gearbox to the earth point on the top of the left strut turret. Always tend to on cars.
At least now I can see both bolted connections and the whole of the cable.
Given the importance of the engine earth strap I can never understand why manufactures use braided material and hide them away somewhere obscure.

Post #524345 10th Aug 2019 7:29am
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S.Hafsmo



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Norway 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Orkney Grey

The braided ground strap is used to conduct high frequency electrical noise. High frequency in the megahertz or radio frequency range. High frequency current travels on the surface of a conductor. The so called skin current effect. The fibers in the braid have much more surface area than a stranded wire. 2007 L322 3.6 TDV8 Stornoway

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Baltic Blue



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Baltic Blue

Braided engine earth straps absorb engine vibration better and therefore last longer than more solid ones which eventually fracture.
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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ctjfb



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Yes - I agree - braided is best.
Generic copper ones available for around £20 from eBay and other places !

Chris Chris
2012 TDV8 4.4 Westminster

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nicedayforit



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England 2004 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Giverny Green

I use welding cable when I fit earth straps for the reasons above. Thumbs Up

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I’m half way through replacing my alternator and found the very same today when the cr@p weather finally relented.

I can see one end of it, where it bolts to the chassis but the other end disappears up into a space I can’t see. Anyone know where the other end bolts on? Got - 2017 SDV8 Autobiography in Loire Blue
Had- 2008 TDV8 Vogue SE in Java black
Had - 2007 S/C in Stornoway Grey

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ctjfb



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I seem to recall, but am not certain, that it bolts to the engine mounting (engine side of the mounting, obviously)..

Have a feel up and around the mounting and yiou should find the end !

Chris Chris
2012 TDV8 4.4 Westminster

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Re: 2008 TDV8 Engine earth strap

ctjfb wrote:
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Whilst poking about under the car today - actually intending to take a peek inside the RH Intercooler inlet pipe to check for oil etc. I happened to notice that the earth strap had completely disintegrated ...

Surprisingly there have been no faults or starting difficulties ... I hate to think what has been carrying all that load Sad

I would say it's well worth having a look at the strap if you are ever under the covers !! If mine was like this, I would expect many others are too ...

Chris
FF TDV8 3.6


You may be aware allready sorry but i just wanted to say that on the right hand side of the cooler you may well get some more oil than usual because the crankcase breather from the engine goes thru the right hand side turbo / cooler



Dave 2010 3.6TDV8 Autobiography
Bas remap, Egr deleted (blanked & via remap) , Cold air intake, Turbo back exhaust, Provent 200 catch can, Banks idash gauge, 275/55/R20

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Past - 02 & 03 TD6 And an 1984 Classic

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SkupiK



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Norway 2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Had a same problem too. Sadly it was the last thing I checked, so I now I got a spare starter. Wink
Salty Norwegian roads has destroyed copper strap.

The front strap is located on the right side, front of the wheel arch. Front part of underbody plate has to be removed.
Rubber shield behind the wheel has to go down too. (10mm bolt)
Trickiest part is removing the screw holding the earth strap on the engine side, since it’s very close to the intercooler pipe.
Flat wrench and some fiddling with fingers will do the job.

Just remember to clean it before install, since it’s gonna be likely corroded too.

New shiny strap is seen on the picture. Hope it helps.

Post #546152 6th Mar 2020 5:28am
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