Well thanks to all the comments on this topic the oil change went well with the draper pump. Followed the refill advice and what better way to spend a Sunday afternoon?

Dave

I popped my home oil change cherry this morning
Having the advice on here really helped a treat

Couple of observations:

1) I needed to pump a few times during the extraction to maintain flow. Air controls valve in line with handle and pointing towards spout area
2) Careful not to cross thread the plastic filter housing when putting back in with new Genuine filter (I always use Genuine parts) . It’s also a little stiff to do up but it bottomed down ok and torqued to 27Nm
3) Put bonnet into service position for easier access to filter housing area and to check for leaks
4) 8.25L was bang on right. I don’t like running engines on max oil. https://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-79221-shell-h...gine%20oil

 Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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Last edited by DrRob on 25th Jan 2020 4:40pm. Edited 1 time in total

Glad it went well Rob, and welcome to the “suckers” club.

I should have mentioned that I usually put the bonnet in the service position, but that is mainly because I remove the cabin filter box at the same time. I change the filter every other year, but almost always remove it to get a better view down the back of the engine to check all is clean and dry , no leaks from the O rings.

Also whilst my hands are dirty I clean the MAPT sensor .

Don’t forget to reset the service indicator with your iid.
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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Last edited by Baltic Blue on 25th Jan 2020 1:59pm. Edited 1 time in total

Well done DrRob, from one sucker to another.

You could also use the thing to help empty your fuel tank when the fuel pump and gauge goes AWOL.

You can guess how I know Cheers
Richard

(there are no such things as an ordinary FullFat, an ordinary cat or too many tools)
2011 TDV8 Vogue Santorini Black
Gap IIDBT

 Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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well you all know how I feel about sucking...

. Cheers, Greg
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2011 Vogue SE 4.4 with lots of toys in Stornaway

Mine gets drained on main service from both sump plugs. Suction used for intermediate oil and filter change  Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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Rob,
I bet you got over 9 litres out, and if you took out both sump plugs you wouldn’t fill 2 egg cups., and Greg spills most of that
drip drip
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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Yep! Over 9 came out. 8.25 went in
Greg - happy to do yours on my drive one weekend
I’ll convert you  Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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I also used Mike’s step by step prompts

Warm engine up to thin the oil for a few minutes.
Open bonnet and remove black engine cover.
Remove oil filler cap.
Remove Black plastic cap from suction tube.
Loosen the oil filter housing by a couple of turns (36mm) socket, but do not remove at this stage.
Connect suction pump to tube.
A couple of pumps and you will see dirty old oil starting to syphon out of engine and into tank.
Remove oil filter, being careful to catch any drips.
Watch tank filling to approx 9.5 litres of old dirty oil.
Wipe out and clean filter housing.
Remove old filter from plastic cover/ bowl and clean.
Remove old rubber sealing ring from filter bowl
Lightly oil new rubber sealing ring and replace as per original.
Insert new filter in housing bowl/cover.
When all old oil has finished draining, re- fit filter and tighten to 27 nm torque.
Remove tank suction pipe from engine tube and replace cap.
Pour in 5 litres of new oil, then add 3 more measured litres.
Allow time for new oil to settle then start engine and check to ensure no leaks around filter bowl.
Stop engine and check oil level on dash display... it may be necessary to reset if it says Not Available, using a double click on the cruise control reset switch.
Top up as required by adding 0.25 litre of new oil.
Empty old oil from tank by pouring into empty 5litre containers.
Re check engine oil level on gauge, wait then top up 0.25 litre if required.
Replace black engine cover.
Reset the service indicator if you have an iid

Very helpful Mike  Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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Glad it all went well Rob .
I am off to Tenerife tomorrow for a few weeks of winter sunshine, so B.blue is on CTEK charging in my garage, but I will be doing mine again first fine day after I return.
Cheers
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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One of us needs to video an oil and filter change and load it on YouTube. There is not one single video on doing a 4.4  Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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Hi mike, Rob,

I have been trying the suction method through the engine tube today with a 12v oil suction pump after having the engine running at idle for 10mn and wait another 10mn to have the oil running down. ‘I’ve been able to get it flow but for a ridicusly amount of oil. So after 1 hr and just a couple of drop I stopped it.
I had the oil cap open as suggested but I didn’t un torque the oil filter (not having the 36 socket)? Is it supposed to make any difference in the way the oil flows ? Is there any interaction due to the fact of losing a bit the oil filter ?
Any other guess ?

Thanks in advance for your Intel

I'd have thought the oil would come out with just oil cap removed. Maybe the pump was not man enough. The Draper Expert 10L vacuum hand pump works a treat but does take around 10mins to empty the 9L or so Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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Sorry Tom, but I have never tried draining oil without loosening the filter..., nor have I ever tried using an electric pump.
I would think just removing the oil cap would work, but not sure.
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic56162...tty+affair