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JST



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England 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 V8 Stornoway Grey
4.4 tdv8 12MY restricted Performance

Hi there, was wondering if anyone has experienced or could shed light on this.

Soon after i had the vehicle (22Oct) it went into restricted performance after hard acceleration up a hill at 60-70mph. a fault code reader showed: P244B, P004B, P00CF. Clearing the codes and everything resumed as normal.

When last at the dealers they couldnt replicate the fault and neither could I - until Christmas day some 3k miles later.

Again hardish acceleration upto 70pmh and Restricted performance came up, with P004B. clearing the code and again back to normal.

toyota have some good info here: http://www.moranbahweather.com/toyota/repa...l007x.html

from that would it seem the vanes are not operating correctly due to DC motor issue? Cheers

James

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It might be worth getting the turbo air change over valve checked.
I had exactly the same symptoms,i.e. Restricted Performance when I put my foot hard down to overtake slow moving traffic on the motorway.
Apparently the change over valve was modified to prevent it sticking .
There is a service bulletin detailing the fault and fix.
Mine was changed under warranty. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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JST



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thank you for heads up, did they give you a part number for the valve or any further detail? or the tech number?



Did your do it all the time? or occasional? Cheers

James

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steveball



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Could it be slight degradation / split in one of the hoses from intercooler to inlet manifold? They're well known for failing (on 3.6 TDV8, anyway - can't see why it would be any different on a 4.4). The top two hoses are fairly easy to get at and inspect. My thinking being that a split might only open up under pressure, which would explain 3k trouble-free miles between problem.

Steve Current: 2010 Range Rover L322
Vogue SE, TDV8 3.6, Bournville
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JST



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Hi Steve, good point, although it is used hard between the 3k miles so i am not sure as its not a consistent fault. will check the hoses. Cheers

James

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JST,
LTB 00504 dated 18/2/2013. refers.
Cheers
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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JST



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thank you Cheers

James

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JST



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still does it, hoses are good.

P00CF comes up now.

and see other thread - its using oil, but not convinced they are related but could be, hence didn't put this info in other post! Cheers

James

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Buz1500



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I had a similar issue last year whilst in France and it turned out to be a cracked inlet manifold. The French mechanic demonstrated it by standing on the accelerator whilst I held my hand over the manifold. Lots of air escaping from the split manifold. It appears the split only caused an issue when the car was on a long climb with the caravan on the back, I.e. Under load.

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JST



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cheers Buzz, that has been suggested previously and your comments help reassure this. was that on a 4.4? i am aware of is it being a problem with the 4.4s Cheers

James

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Hi James, yes, a 4.4

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JST



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thank you. Cheers

James

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Hi JST,

Did you ever get to the bottom of your "restricted performance' issue?

I have the same problem on my 2012 Westminster. Red warning, limp home mode and an oil patch on my driveway. Just took it in for diagnostics and the garage thinks its the EGR valve, but that doesn't explain the oil loss.

Would be good to hear what yours turned out to be and how they fixed it?

cheers
Tony 2011 Range Rover TDV8 4.4 Vogue SE
2007 Range Rover TDV8 Vogue (Sold)
2004 Range Rover Vogue TD6 (Sold)

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Bushy30



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Hi Tony,

Urrr, feeling a bit guilty here!

Hopefully you'll find the answer soon

Bushy Current: 2011 FFRR Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8
Previous: -
2004 FFRR Vogue 4.4 V8 with LPG
1997 P38 4.0 SE with LPG
1997 P38 4.6 Vogue with LPG

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JST



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hello,

yes a combination of things.

leak between the two dpf sensors meaning it wouldnt pass the full boost air pressure test thing that they run on testbook(?)

plus the turbo drain mod was needed as oil was filling the dpf and combined with above giving incorrect soot level readings. Cheers

James

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