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Mr Tee



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Get rid

Post #382246 15th Apr 2016 10:39am
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Lego



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Oslo Blue

100% say get rid, fit good quality air filter and swirl breather say hello to 30 ish mpg but as it drives quicker its more like 28mpg these days at 128,000 miles but better than 23-4 when I got it at 102,000 miles.

Paul

Post #383662 25th Apr 2016 10:44am
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rangeseb



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Java Black

Is there a link to another post to show how to remove or clean? Would like to give it a go but or at least see if its something i could turn my had too.

Post #383700 25th Apr 2016 1:49pm
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miggit



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Shocked No body bothers to clean a TD6 EGR, Whistle you can get a new bypass for under £30... by the time you've brought the cleaner and faffed about....is it really worth it?

Removing is fairly straight forward.....

Bonnet in service position, optional but recommended

Remove Air box, 2 x 13mm ( M8 ) nuts on bulkhead, one is next to the battery jumper point, and slide forward and lift, cos the bloody ABS pump is in the way Evil or Very Mad

Remove engine top cover

Then at the front R/H side of engine you'll see the EGR, remove the small rubber vacuum hose, loosen and slide off the jubilee clip from the small exhaust pipe, and the large jubilee clip holding the intercooler pipe on....

Now it is possible to remove the 4 bolts that hold the EGR to the inlet manifold at this stage... but it's a real big pain, and it is by far easier to remove the whole inlet manifold..

You'll need to pop the rubber bungs on the top of the manifold, and remove the nuts that are beneath.... they are M7 Shocked and require an 11mm socket, Whistle dipping the socket in some grease before will save a lot of Censored Censored Big Cry

then it's the bolts by the injectors and it will come off.... there are some sensors on the manifold that require the leads to be disconnected, so don't yank it up Shocked

Also it's been a while since I had these bits off so I can't remember if the Air Filter cover has to come off as well Embarassed

to clean there are various options but Mr Muscle Oven cleaner seams to be popular on the web.... but don't leave it on the EGR for long as it attacks aluminium.... and that's what the EGR is made of..... personally I'd fit a bypass, but have a go at the manifold with the Mr Muscle.... but don't let the wife catch you... or you'll have another job waiting when you've finished Shocked D'OH!! Banging Head Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Post #383712 25th Apr 2016 2:43pm
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miggit



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FYI if you haven't already downloaded "2002-2006 workshop 'REPAIR' manual RAVE" in wiki, DO IT! it will tell you everything you need to know about taking bits off of ffrr's....... if your lucky you can sometimes find the instructions to reassemble Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Post #383713 25th Apr 2016 2:50pm
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rangeseb



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Java Black

cheers miggit, going to have a look at the guide, will use the search option to track it down
cheers

Post #383715 25th Apr 2016 2:55pm
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miggit



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Shocked Wiki is at the top right hand corner of every fullfatrr.com forum page Wink

This is the link for the download https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0Byv5LFgQZql...t=download Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Post #383726 25th Apr 2016 3:41pm
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rangeseb



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Java Black

Yeah....well......i knew that. Shocked

Post #383731 25th Apr 2016 4:19pm
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bgennette



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Australia 2003 Range Rover HSE Td6 Java Black
EGR Blank Off test

To convince yourself that it will be worthwhile do a comparison test.

Observe how the car drives over a normal week (but you know this already so you can skip this first week), then
Unplug the vacuum tube going into the EGR valve and stick a golf tee into it (to satisfy the engine management computer), and cover the vacuum pipe going into the valve (to keep it clean, this can just be a few turns of insulation tape).
Observe how the car drives over a normal week without EGR.
Re connect the EGR
Observe how the car drives over a normal week with EGR restored.

Buy and fit the blanking kit now that you know how much better the car performs without EGR.
Get this style that blanks both ends of the system to avoid the problem described below.



As a side note, on my TD6 after towing for 20,000km with the blanking done the still connected exhaust feeder pipe cracked near the lower connection with the exhaust pipe going to the turbo. An additional blanking plate was fabricated and fitted onto the engine pipe under the flange for this feeder pipe to completely complete the blanking.

bye.


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Post #385296 5th May 2016 12:17am
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N11roadwarrior



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Hello all, which EGR blanking kit would you recommend ?

Post #391534 13th Jun 2016 7:56pm
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mrblonde



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United Kingdom 2003 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Adriatic Blue

Thought I'd resurrect this old post guys, after a house move and other time consuming things I've now got more time to spend on the old girl (the FF, not the missus Whistle )

I've already had it remapped (TD6) and was talking in work about blanking the EGR but a guy said you need to do it before its remapped, otherwise you get issues? Never heard it before, is he talking rubbish?

Post #473537 23rd Mar 2018 4:01am
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mrblonde



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Hi all

Right, now I finally have time on my hands i'm getting around to doing all the small piddly jobs I've been putting off (Theres loads.... so expect more simpleton questions the next coming week or 2)

Should I still blank off the EGR? Only asking as Stan said to keep it incase it becomes an MOT inspection item?

Post #490312 29th Sep 2018 1:14pm
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kds2



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England 2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

Egr removed on my td6 by somebody ( Whistle ) with fan and shroud on unless you know where to look difficult to see not there, past mot first rev couple weeks ago.

Post #490387 30th Sep 2018 12:17am
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mrblonde



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miggit wrote:
Shocked Wiki is at the top right hand corner of every fullfatrr.com forum page Wink

This is the link for the download https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0Byv5LFgQZql...t=download


Miggit, Ive downloaded your link and unzipped it Embarassed But cant seme to open anything now its unzipped? Am looking for a 'run.exe' type option, but cant find anything?? what am i doing wrong please?

Post #490402 30th Sep 2018 9:08am
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mark35gun



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Autobiography Black TDV8 Santorini Black

been disconnected on mine for 9 years and about 60000 miles, no ill effects, just pulled off the pipe and blocked it, maybe should have done more but i diddnt and its ok to date (touch wood) 2011 4.4 tdv8 autobiography black
2006 td6 vogue buckingham blue
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1998 p38 vogue oslo blue gone
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