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Nogbag



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I'm sure this should'nt happen...

Just been to look at yet another promising potential purchase, an '04 TD6 Vogue. Sounded great on paper (don't they all), reasonably clean inside but when I went to open rear offside door, water came cascading out, more than enough to splash ones shoes (Theresa May would not be pleased). I can only presume rain had seeped in and become trapped by what looked to be a rather hefty seal along the bottom edge of the door. I had already been a bit put off by the lack of any documented history other then the usual stamped book. Also went to look in the boot and straight away saw rust stained and rotting leather pull strap on carpeted spare wheel well cover thingy.
The search goes on....

Post #127151 21st Jun 2012 5:35pm
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Saint.v8



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United Kingdom 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Adriatic Blue

Mine traps water between the 2 door seals....

I am sure I read a fix somewhere but damned if I can find it now....

If you have rust spots in the boot area, walk away, the do suffer from leaks on the NSR Quarter area, and it leaks on to the rather delicate Electrical equipment (Sat Nav, Radio, Bluetooth system et al).... 

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Nogbag



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Did'nt realise there are two door seals (but then it is a RR) so maybe it was'nt as bad as first thought. Still likely to catch the unwary out. It reminded me when I test drove a Disco 2 one fine sunny day a few years back - first time I braked, water came pouring out of the headlining above the passenger seat! Still bought it though.

That's a mighty fine collection you've had there Saintv.8

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mine does that after rainfall..i also read that the door gets clogged up at the bottom and needs unblocking .. ... - .- -.




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Saint.v8



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United Kingdom 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Adriatic Blue

Unfortunatly not a collection, just a rogues gallery of past Rangies I have owned over the last few years....!! 

Post #127181 22nd Jun 2012 6:48am
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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Zambezi Silver

Yep, my 2004 TD6 does this too on the rear doors. I've had a damned good look, applied a bit of vaseline here and there but it doesn't seem to be caussing any problems. It has been doing it since I bought the car (nearly 2 years ago) and it has not caused any rust anywhere that I can see.

As for the boot/wetness - I agree with above comments but it is an easy fix. I had it and it was solved with a new OEM LR boot seal which was about £70-80 if I remember correctly. Since then dry as a bone.

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England 2004 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Giverny Green

You can cure the water problem at the rear side doors by placing a piece of 50x50mm timber at the bottom of the door opening and closing the door onto it.
You then stand on a pair of step ladders or similar and press on the rear top corner of the door with a bouncing motion using the weight of your body.
This has the effect of bending the door frame almost imperceptibly but results in the door closing tighter on the outer door seal. Result, no water between the seals.
Did one of my rear doors a while ago, which was really bad, never had a drop of water since. Very Happy
Door still closes as before.

Post #127187 22nd Jun 2012 8:19am
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mine also traps water between the seals on the nsr door, done it since new.

Post #127244 22nd Jun 2012 8:13pm
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nicedayforit wrote:
You can cure the water problem at the rear side doors by placing a piece of 50x50mm timber at the bottom of the door opening and closing the door onto it.
You then stand on a pair of step ladders or similar and press on the rear top corner of the door with a bouncing motion using the weight of your body.....
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Ah the old car dealer sagging hinge fix Very Happy

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Nogbag



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Thanks for all your replies, good to hear it is'nt unique to the vehicle I looked at but there are too many other question marks against pursuing the purchase of this one so the quest goes on.

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Quite normal but only happens on those where the door shuts allow water in between the seals. Wet shoes only real problem but realignment may help.

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Aurrian



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I have this problem on both rear doors since getting the car 2 1/2 years ago, and heard it could be fixed by a dealer. I was going to ask them the first time i visited, but have managed never to visit a main dealer Smile

My indie was talking about changing the door seals so i told him not to bother.

How do you align the doors? Can't find it in RAVE?

Is the door bending trick a good idea?? With window open or closed?

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Check the lower drains in the doors, all the doors are made to have water enter at the top, its easier to manage the water then to try and make it waterproof (almost an imposibility when you have a drop window) So, check the lower drain holes are clear...


Craig Thumbs Up

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Aurrian



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Thanks for that.

Where are they? In the rubber seal?

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Aurrian



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nicedayforit wrote:
You can cure the water problem at the rear side doors by placing a piece of 50x50mm timber at the bottom of the door opening and closing the door onto it.
You then stand on a pair of step ladders or similar and press on the rear top corner of the door with a bouncing motion using the weight of your body.
This has the effect of bending the door frame almost imperceptibly but results in the door closing tighter on the outer door seal. Result, no water between the seals.
Did one of my rear doors a while ago, which was really bad, never had a drop of water since. Very Happy
Door still closes as before.



Did this last week - and it has worked!!! Bow down

Been really p'ing down here most of the weekend - and not a drop of water. Used to get about a pint of water build up in the door seals.

Really pleased Very Happy

Thanks Thumbs Up

Thanks

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