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stan
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thats interesting colin as he didn't tell me about that...

paul, as i haven't any faults ,i've not really explored that side of the RAC...

5th Sep 2011 4:08pm

PaulB

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Not being able to read engine faults on a diesel is a big disadvantage.

Storey kept that quiet to say the least. No mention of it anywhere.

Stan
Mine is pre facelift but has touch screen.
When you have time connect up, go into read faults, start at the top module and see if you can link to all the modules in the list. I can't.

Cheers

5th Sep 2011 4:19pm

stan
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i have the touch screen as well paul but have a hse spec...

i'll try and do what you suggested tomorrow paul..

5th Sep 2011 4:24pm

jaybear

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PaulB wrote:
Not being able to read engine faults on a diesel is a big disadvantage.

Storey kept that quiet to say the least. No mention of it anywhere.

Stan
Mine is pre facelift but has touch screen.
When you have time connect up, go into read faults, start at the top module and see if you can link to all the modules in the list. I can't.

Cheers

You have to understand that Storey is in USA where he can't put his hands on a Diesel model / they just don't sell there !!!!!!!
so how do you think he is gonna do all the testing ??????

Jaybear Jaybear

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5th Sep 2011 5:08pm

PaulB

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jaybear wrote:
PaulB wrote:
Not being able to read engine faults on a diesel is a big disadvantage.

Storey kept that quiet to say the least. No mention of it anywhere.

Stan
Mine is pre facelift but has touch screen.
When you have time connect up, go into read faults, start at the top module and see if you can link to all the modules in the list. I can't.

Cheers

You have to understand that Storey is in USA where he can't put his hands on a Diesel model / they just don't sell there !!!!!!!
so how do you think he is gonna do all the testing ??????

Jaybear

So why not state that his software is not suitable for diesels?

He has a nice website, he could put it on there!!!!

5th Sep 2011 5:15pm

stan
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paul right jaybear, i've been talking to storey since may and i've got pre-production unit and never in that time did he mention that it wasnt any good for diesels..

5th Sep 2011 5:27pm

Reformed

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Maybe I might look into the other unit after all, If I am honest, I am not that impressed with my all comms. Reformed

5th Sep 2011 6:24pm

stan
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i've had thoughts and although the RAC doesnt do diesel engines, clearing faults on all the rest of the stuff like steering/transmission etc will still work ..

5th Sep 2011 6:39pm

Reformed

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Well I have played with it a bit. I just thought it would have been better. I have noticed it seems to work on everything else. If my Rangey doesnt cost to much next month when it gets it MOT I might look at Steves device as well. Reformed

5th Sep 2011 6:45pm

ric355

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Reformed wrote:
Maybe I might look into the other unit after all, If I am honest, I am not that impressed with my all comms.

Today's update adds a couple of capabilities that makes me think he's able to move things forward a little faster than I initially thought. I'm not sure how he's doing it though - whether he's having to reverse engineer stuff or whether he's got the necessary protocol documentation. If it's the former then he'll be limited in what he can achieve by his own skill level and technical knowledge of the system. If it's the latter then only by his available time.

I looked into the other tool a bit more the other day and concluded the two aren't that far apart in functional terms and will soon be very similar based on the latest RAC news article but the other tool has the benefit of not requiring a laptop. On the face of it this is better for things like emergency suspension resets as you can keep it in your glovebox, but the laptop obviously has more flexibility.

The RAC tool though has a shocking interface; it's a bit silly that in order to read any faults you have to connect to each ECU manually. It'd be far better if the tool would just connect to every module in turn, download the faults, and then present them in a table showing which module each fault comes from.

I seem to have to acknowledge the license agreement every time I start it up as well. Maybe that's because I keep getting updates to the software but either way it seems pointless having to keep repeating that step.

5th Sep 2011 6:49pm

Rob2529

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I think as stated her Storey is doing a good job with what he has to work with. He's a one man band with a day job and a family building something well beyond most if not all of our abilitys. I think the RAC is a great bit of kit and has ALOT of potential. Yer there is the OBD2 thingy Steve is working on which is very impressive but currently is about twice the price as the RAC an I think even Steve has said he's got other wizards working with him as a full time project. So a think a bit of credit should go to these guys for helping us not get shafted by the dealer every time there is a fault. Also think Storey deserves extra quedos for doing it alone. As for the RAC not working on a TD6 engine management I doubt that is permanent as I'm sure Storey wouldn't limit his product in such a way. I'm sure with patience and time Storey will get it sorted! [img]http://www.fuelly.com/driver/rob2529/range-rover[img/]
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5th Sep 2011 6:52pm

ric355

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Rob2529 wrote:
I think as stated her Storey is doing a good job with what he has to work with. He's a one man band with a day job and a family building something well beyond most if not all of our abilitys. I think the RAC is a great bit of kit and has ALOT of potential. Yer there is the OBD2 thingy Steve is working on which is very impressive but currently is about twice the price as the RAC an I think even Steve has said he's got other wizards working with him as a full time project. So a think a bit of credit should go to these guys for helping us not get shafted by the dealer every time there is a fault. Also think Storey deserves extra quedos for doing it alone. As for the RAC not working on a TD6 engine management I doubt that is permanent as I'm sure Storey wouldn't limit his product in such a way. I'm sure with patience and time Storey will get it sorted!

You're right he definitely does deserve credit for what he's done so far. I'd love to be able to help him as it would be to my own benefit - my day job used to be software development - but I don't have any technical info to work off unfortunately. I'm still in the industry but in management now, however I still know how to get my hands dirty !

5th Sep 2011 6:59pm

PaulB

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I agree with Stan that it will do certain jobs on our TD6.

I also understand that it takes a lot of knowledge and work to design and launch this kind of tool.

He obviously knows his stuff.

BUT

If he had openly stated that all comms doesn't read and clear engine module faults on diesels, then I might of looked else where. I have just read the whole of his website and there is no indication that his tool has limited use on the diesels.

Let's hope the body control module gets sorted soon, then at least I can play with that

I wish the faultmate was more sensibly priced, they would sell far more units.

5th Sep 2011 7:08pm

Rob2529

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ric355 wrote:
Rob2529 wrote:
I think as stated her Storey is doing a good job with what he has to work with. He's a one man band with a day job and a family building something well beyond most if not all of our abilitys. I think the RAC is a great bit of kit and has ALOT of potential. Yer there is the OBD2 thingy Steve is working on which is very impressive but currently is about twice the price as the RAC an I think even Steve has said he's got other wizards working with him as a full time project. So a think a bit of credit should go to these guys for helping us not get shafted by the dealer every time there is a fault. Also think Storey deserves extra quedos for doing it alone. As for the RAC not working on a TD6 engine management I doubt that is permanent as I'm sure Storey wouldn't limit his product in such a way. I'm sure with patience and time Storey will get it sorted!

You're right he definitely does deserve credit for what he's done so far. I'd love to be able to help him as it would be to my own benefit - my day job used to be software development - but I don't have any technical info to work off unfortunately. I'm still in the industry but in management now, however I still know how to get my hands dirty !

Ric
If you have a RAC drop Storey an email. He might be great full of a TD6 helper. From what i can gather the lack of TD6 development is down to not having a TD6 to work on. You might be just the ticket he needs? I think the expert mode is for this scenario. [img]http://www.fuelly.com/driver/rob2529/range-rover[img/]
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"You can sleep in your car, BUT you can't race your house!!!!"

If something can't be fixed with a hammer....... You have yourself an electrical fault!

5th Sep 2011 7:52pm

ric355

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Location: Surrey, UK
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Rob2529 wrote:

Ric
If you have a RAC drop Storey an email. He might be great full of a TD6 helper. From what i can gather the lack of TD6 development is down to not having a TD6 to work on. You might be just the ticket he needs? I think the expert mode is for this scenario.

I wouldn't be able to help with TD6 work as I have a '53 V8 petrol.

5th Sep 2011 9:04pm

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