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joninprague



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strange gearbox question

Today I looked at a beauty of a l322!

they had mentioned it had some gearbox issues but they turned out to be a little strange so I wonder if it might not be as catastrophic as I or they think

Basically moving the gear lever feels a little spongy if that makes sense and it goes through all the gears really well but you have to hold the gearstick back in drive because as soon as you let go it drops back to neutral.

Do you think this could be as simple as a gear linkage issue or its the start of a gearbox failure

Its a low mileage 3.6 2007 done just over 80k

any advice very much appreciated

Post #657784 25th Feb 2023 5:54pm
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Highroller



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Could just be a linkage probem. Does it have any issues starting if you move the gear lever slightly in park?, which would indicate a linkage problem.

Have they had any work done on the gearbox & are there any leaks. Have you driven it or looked underneath at the gear box?.


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Post #657790 25th Feb 2023 6:09pm
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joninprague



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Thanks, No they have not had any work done to it but its about the mileage the gearbox oil should be replaced from what I have read.
it goes through the gears fine and no real hesitation goes into park it just feels a little like its not locked into D without holding the gearstick back

Rolling Eyes Confused

It didnt like going into park without a bit of force and the definite click because it wouldn't let me remove the key

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My money is a one the linkage being the problem, get under and see how corroded it looks and get it freed off and lubed up.

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Highroller



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It's all pointing towards the linkage. To be honest the six speed gearboxes are pretty good. Thumbs Up

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joninprague



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Thanks Gents. if I manage to get it I will get straight underneath

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appj62



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Post #657839 26th Feb 2023 10:08am
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joninprague



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So picked the car up yesterday and drive home with out any real problems. I did have to just keep gearstick back to keep it in gear. The other gears work perfectly as do reverse. It does have an small problem as although the light shows its in park.

Its has to be wiggled to get the key out most of times but sometimes comes out with any issues

I will try to get under it at the selector cable. Also it threw up check brake fluid. I did stop at the petrol station bought some and just topped up the reservoir a bit as it was dark.

But the drive home was around 50 miles and it did not miss a beet

Post #658586 5th Mar 2023 10:15pm
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joninprague



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so plugged in the icarsoft and it came up with the code p0826. I have looked at the gear selector and seems to move ok but sounds a little clunky. I will attach a short video if I can figure out how Very Happy

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joninprague



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so managed to upload to youtube on the link below



I am still unsure if the noise is louder than it should be just sounds a little clunky to me Shocked it still starts as long as in neutral doesn't seem to know its in park even though the light says its in P and also P on the dash. it doesn't like letting go of the key without a wiggle

I have just had delivered the new replacement so when the weather is better I can get under and replace

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joninprague



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Click image to enlarge

Just a quick update to say that changing the linkage worked 100%

was a fairly quick and easy fix to be honest and less than £30 Smile

So because the car has not been driven for a few months until I picked it up when driving it it seems to lack a bit of power and also the kickdown really doesn't really have any power at all.

also about 3 times on starting the engine the engine management fault appears for about 30 seconds then disappears but only happened a few times.

No fault codes showing at all...

from having a look on here I think it might be either a split hose or possibly an turbo actuator? Is there a way using the code reader I can determine what's wrong using live data? I am not so technically minded but can post results on here for advice. I also noticed these 2 pipes that are radiator hoses but just appear to be pushed into eachother is this normal? I have taken a picture
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Thanks again for your help I would be lost without you Smile

Post #659149 11th Mar 2023 8:23pm
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garyRR



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That photo just shows a pipe clip?

Very difficult to diagnose remotely. However, lack of power on demand likely means an intake or a boost problem, although could also be ignition (injectors) also.

The simple things would be to take off both intercooler hoses (the two big hoses in the photo) and have a thorough look for splits or leaks.

Also have a thorough look around the intake manifold and throttle body for any splits (you'll likely see diesel soot in the vicinity or a sludge build up).

Any evidence of when the fuel filter was changed? If not, this is also worth changing.

If it's not intake, then it's likely a boost issue - any smoke or soot out the back at 2,500+ RPM?

I'd suggest putting it into a specialist garage to diagnose. Glenrands aren't far away from you. 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

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joninprague



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Just as a little update the brake issue was the rear drivers side brake hose was leaking so I have bought 2 to do both sides.

I still have the loss of power issue Crying or Very sad

I have checked the top hoses and they are both fine no cracks.

Using the icarsoft I took some manifold absolute pressure reading and both bank 1 and 2 had pretty much the same numbers bank 1 98kpa and bank 2 94kpa

then some commanded boost actuator control with higher rpm and they showed bank 1 at 46.67% and bank 2 at 77.65%

then higher rpm and bank 1 was 78.43% and bank 2 was 73.33%

the only error code shows p132b turbo/supercharger boost control a performance.

I know I should just take it to a garage but I am really keen to try and learn and do as much as I can.
But I can get these live readings and honestly I have no clue if they are good or not.

She runs so beautifully no suspension problems and only 87k miles. perfect interior and everything works. ticks over really well its just this loss of power issue. I have not had an error messages on the dash. just saying check brake fluid but I know what that is now.

If anyone can help it would be very much appreciated

Thanks

Post #659555 16th Mar 2023 3:00pm
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joninprague



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Hi All,

is there any other ways with live data that I can use to help see diagnose the p132e and strangely also threw a p2269 water in fuel condition..

Many Thanks

Jon

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