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dhallworth



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Baltic Blue

Philip wrote:
Does it really? I was quoted 4 hours labour...


No way. With a ramp, it's a doddle.

The under tray comes off, you can see the starter on the drivers side. Getting to the terminals is easy and it comes out through on of the gaps in the subframe with a little wriggling.

I'm sure the workshop manual says take the arch liner and other stuff off but it's not necessary.

When I did ours, it was on a 4 post ramp, all 4 wheels on and nothing other than a ratchet and some sockets. Only reason I had the bonnet open was to disconnect the battery!

I think book time is around 1.5hrs from memory!

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

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DrRob



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Fit a Denso starter motor. Lot cheaper than Genuine and it’s what a few of us have fitted Thumbs Up Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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dhallworth



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It's a Denso we fitted to ours too.

Interestingly, it was a Denso one that was removed too and which was fitted as a genuine part by LR.

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

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Jayk69



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Barolo Black

I forgot to ask that important question just assumed you knew what the fault was!!
here is hoping you got yourself a bargain by all accounts these engines are pretty robust!! Thumbs Up 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

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Autobiographyblack



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Update, its a runner, new battery, bit of fiddling about, erase all codes and it fired into life, seemed it had just been stood and low battery had caused issues, possibly even to the starter as even that needed a tap to get going, after running up to temp and going for a run it seems a good old thing, few oil leaks etc so decided i will continue with the initial plan to pull the engine and replace a fee things to future proof it a bit, list so far is:

2 new turbos
Upgraded drain pipe
New egr
New oil cooler
Renew any dodgey looking coolant hoses
Water pump
Anti freeze
Polly belts/tensioners
Rear main seal and any other seals/gaskets where needed
Gearbox service kit
Anything we find along the way and a major service using all genuine parts

Another thing weve noticed is the fan howling a bit so need to investigate that along with seized side steps

Will update as we go along.

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mjdronfield



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

That’s cracking news.

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Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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Autobiographyblack



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Yes its a result, i dont mind going to town on it now as the engine being good gives me more budget

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Jayk69



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That is great news Thumbs Up
i have to say though i would have the original Turbo's inspected before the big spend on new ones.....just a thought 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

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Autobiographyblack



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Ive had a good deal on the turbos so ive gone for it for peace of mind, plus i should pull some money back on the old ones.

Engines out and my friend has just called me to say he will cancel the upgraded drain pipe as its already got one, so id say this car has been fairly well looked after.

The spend is quickly mounting up

New battery
2x turbos
Genuine EGR
Genuine water pump
Genuine belts and tensioner
Oil cooler seals
Rear main seal
8 heater plugs
Gearbox kit
Genuine filters, anti freeze, oil

Im sure the list will grow as we get deeper into investigating everything.

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Autobiographyblack



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A few pics i grabbed today when i popped in the garage, didnt get many as was in a rush.

The turbo drain pipe is the double one and looks to have always been on the engine, ie looks as old as the engine, i did notice that it has a sticker on it that says “prototype” does this pipe look the same as the usual upgraded ones ?

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GraemeS



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Australia 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Bournville

I can't spot any difference to the one in the TSB, other than the label on yours.

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Autobiographyblack



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Thats what i thought, just surprised to see prototype on it, im happy to find that its already on it and appears to have been there a long time, also found out today it has very recently had a new cooling fan.

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DrRob



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I see you're in Shropshire....can I ask who is working on it for you? Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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Autobiographyblack



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My friend works at a garage at a garage in balsall common/coventry, thats where its being done, they do lots of JLR engine work, the place is called Lavender Hall Autos.

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GGDR



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Stornoway Grey

I tell you what mister AB-Black it's a bold move to take out an engine when you don't really need to; just for good measure. This is no MGB. But it's obviously a keeper. I reckon if I had a ramp I'd do the same.

Hats off to you. You are adding years to it. Thumbs Up

. Cheers, Greg
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