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TDSIX



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I did mine today and took a couple pics for you..



Karcher petrol pressure washer and a snow foam attachment..




Using this snow foam.. The Big Shiner..



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PROFESSIONAL-CAR...1611560317

..and an attachment like this..

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KARCHER-Snow-Foa...3008568977

..and it now looks like this..




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John w



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It looks nice afterwards but how dirty was it to start with Wink

I have ordered an autobrite one that I will have a go with too. My car is properly dirty so it will have its work cut out Whistle Too many toys, not enough time

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TDSIX



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Oh it was pretty bad.. i'm not suggesting I just sprayed foam on it and blasted it off.. not at all.. I did..

* pressure rinse
* alloy clean
* snow foam and rinse
* snow foam and sponge
* more snow foam
* pressure rinse
* tar & adhesive remover (first time I've cleaned this particular car)
* pressure rinse
* aqua wax and dry
* glass inside and out



I do that every time (not always using the tar & adhesive, that's once every thousand miles or so). 2010 FF 4.4 TDV8 Vogue - Gone
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Snow foam attachment bought - thanks for link.

How much snow foam concentrate do you put into it? What do I put here then?

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TDSIX



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You can use a 50/50 mix with water and you get a good foam you can work with. For Gillette, use a 50/50 mix with hot water.
I'm pleased to have helped you make a purchase! Best of luck! 2010 FF 4.4 TDV8 Vogue - Gone
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TDSIX



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To finish.. I use this stuff. autogym express wax..

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That's about £30 for 5litres of trade product..

..or they do a smaller one called aqua wax for under £15, it's the same product for retail..



Use that after every wash and often enough and it builds up a nice coating that dirt will just fall off. 2010 FF 4.4 TDV8 Vogue - Gone
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TDSIX wrote:
You can use a 50/50 mix with water and you get a good foam you can work with. For Gillette, use a 50/50 mix with hot water.
I'm pleased to have helped you make a purchase! Best of luck!


So - excuse the daftness - mix it 50:50 in the attachment. Then connect to pressure washer and use? What do I put here then?

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TDSIX



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Yeah as easy as that.. half fill the bottle with product then top up the other half with water or hot water. 2010 FF 4.4 TDV8 Vogue - Gone
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Thanks.

It just sounded too easy - and it is Very Happy What do I put here then?

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Thanks tdsix.

I have aqua wax but to honest have not used it much. I will give it a go tomorrow though.
Daft really, I have the full autoglym 'protect and shine' kit I got with another car when I had life shine done, but tend to use zymol shampoo and polish Rolling Eyes

Foam Lance hasn't turned up yet, so that will be next week Laughing

Oh, I have a follow on question since you know about this stuff. Is the aqua wax what dealers apply when they apply life shine ?
I asked the dealer and he wouldn't tell me Laughing Too many toys, not enough time

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TDSIX



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Life shine is bullshit. It's just the same autoglym cleaning products you get elsewhere but marketed to folks that buy a used car, kidding them on their car will stay clean forever for an extra £150 detailing session Neutral
All they will use is a carnauba wax (autogym HD wax) to finish and you can get that in many forms from £2 to £4000 depending on your budget for what is really just snake oil. I use autoglym HD wax from time to time but find the aqua/express wax does as good a job. Thumbs Up 2010 FF 4.4 TDV8 Vogue - Gone
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Thanks.

I agree it's mostly BS, but have to say the car looked the dogs when they had applied it, and it still does. I've not had to clay it as there are simply no tar or resin spots on it at all.
I wanted to get my hands on the same stuff they used as it was so good.

The other thing to fix is our hard water, so considering buying a 0ppm filter to use for the rinse.
Going to try the aqua wax first though, see how it does without it Smile Too many toys, not enough time

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The only supposed benefit of snow foam is that it’s touchless - i.e. you’re trying to remove dirt without inflicting swirls. My experience is that it’s only of real use on a car which is already properly waxed or sealed - otherwise it just isn’t aggressive enough to lift any dirt.

The stuff that actually does remove dirt is commercial-style traffic film remover, but that’s far too aggressive to use on good paint, finished wheels, metal trim etc.

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Correct.. the snow foam will only remove a light coat of dirt from a well waxed surface. If you let the dirt build up it will leave a film that needs sponged away. TFR traffic film remover will remove this with just a spray and rinse but is aggressive to use frequently, ideally you'll need to wax if you use that. Instead of TFR, you can spray a good coat of snow foam and sponge the film off, keep cleaning the sponge.. the foam acts like shaving foam and lubricates hopefully causing less swirl marks.

If you keep on top of the cleaning, keep using the express wax after each wash, do your tar and adhesive and or clay bar once a month, wash a couple times a week.. it's a losing battle for sure, but if you like a clean car... 2010 FF 4.4 TDV8 Vogue - Gone
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Couple of times a week ?!?
Not a chance. Every couple of weeks is closer Laughing

The new snow foam Lance turned up today, so I gave it a go.not impressed to be honest, but it may be operator error.
I followed the directions on the bottle that says 1 to 2" of solution in bottle and top off with warm water.
This equated to 300ml in 1litre bottle, so a 1::2 mix, not the 1::1 mix you guys suggested.
I think this was the problem, as the foam was not very thick and not very clingy.
I tried the Lance on max to min settings but the pic below was the best I could get. This was taken a minute or so after it was sprayed on.

Dirty car to start with



After a pressure wash


Snow foam applied
Won't upload at the mo maybe my gallery is full Big Cry )

After snow foam rinsed off - still dirty


Car was then washed with zymol shampoo using lambs wool mite and pair of buckets.

Finally after a go with the aqua wax
 Too many toys, not enough time

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