Hi guys

I've just purchased a FFRR vogue 4.4 LPG. I searched this sight high and low Before purchasing and thank you all for the advice this site really is helpful for owners and potential purchasers!

After a bit of searching I managed to find a 3 owner (1st a LR garage) vogue in dark blue with only 65k and LPG converted! It's in immaculate condition save for some bits here and ther bubbling mirror trim couple of scratches and a bit of paintwork but at 7yrs old it's to be expected suppose. By the way I am still amazed at the sheer size of it and the drive And feel is amazing!

Purchased from Evans Halshaw for 13k so top wack but the LPG is nearly new and I was going to add any way so I see it that I've paid 11k for a spot on RR from a main dealer!!

On drive back from Mansfield to Manchester via Leeds to pick my bro up from uni, it did not miss a beat and averaged 25mpg on LPG. I put £11 in LPG (not much but just to test it as first time I've used LPG) which got me from Mansfield to Leeds to Stockport and is still going!!

Anyway after picking my bro up, on the M62 it would not leave third gear even in manual mode. I had to pull off and turn off car. It looks like safe mode. Having a look at the reviews it looks like radiator because after it cooled down it was fine. Oh and the engine management light came on as I restarted the car after 10 mins or so. Last night about 12 when engine was cool, gear ix fine and engine light off!

Car has a 3 month warranty and have been told to take it to an e and Halshaw dealer on Monday when they open and they will have a look.

Hope they sort it! But welcome to range rover hey, not even 2hours of ownership and it's gone wrong!!

Is there anything I should tell them as I want it fixing under their warranty but if some half wit that's used to fixing fiestas tries to sort it and ends up damaging it long term I'd rather sort it myself. Also is it q good idea to flush the gear ix and filter or shall I wIt until warranty runs out??

Thanks

Sam

Hi Sam,

Welcome to the forum, sorry I can't provide any advice on what your gearbox problem might be, but I'm sure someone with gearbox experience will be along shortly.

In the mean time have a browse through the fullfatrr.com wiki, you can find the link just below the site logo at the top right of this page. 
Gone - Range Rover Supercharged 2006

Welcome to the forum and congrats on your new FF
Sad to hear you are having issues already. I am sure they'll sort it and you'll soon be back to wafting around in comfort and style. I bought mine last December and had a few "issues" in the first few weeks. However they were sorted under warranty and I haven't had a problem since. Touch wood  FFRR TD6 HSE
Adriatic Blue with Parchment leather.

Welcome and I know what it's like, haven't seen mine for the last three weeks.


Do a search for gearbox linkage, I remember someone posting regarding a sticking linkage on the side of the gearbox.

Hope you get it sorted soon.

Welcome and sorry for your woes already. Did you get any errors on the dash when you were stuck in 3rd? I'm no expert but sounds like its overheating. could be lots of reasons but would get EH to change the gearbox fluid and do a filter change. while there doing it get them to flush the trans cooler as that could be blocked causing the problem. Just remind then this issue has shown itself after a few in the first week so if its still not resolved after the warranty has expired you wont be paying a penny. [img]http://www.fuelly.com/driver/rob2529/range-rover[img/]
04, 4.4V8, Vogue Oslo Blue with LPG.
"You can sleep in your car, BUT you can't race your house!!!!"

If something can't be fixed with a hammer....... You have yourself an electrical fault!

I would not let Evans Halshaw anywhere near a car of mine again. They are the worst dealer I know and haven't a clue how to toast a slice of bread let alone fix a FFRR.....Rant over


The engine management light could be caused by the LPG. LPG is out-with the tolerances of Lambda and oxygen sensors and often cause the EM light to flash up. Did the light come on at the same time it went into limp mode and jam in 3rd gear?

Thanks for the quick reply guys!

Yeah EH don't have the best reviews to be fair but if it's a simple rad change and flush maybe I can either get them to do it or meet half way on cost at a LR specialist. The light came on after I pulled over and re-started it. It was a hot day yesterday so as I was pulled over had the engine on and off to cool me down while I was flustering over the gear issue! Maybe starting it on and off a few times thru off the EM?

Today the car is perfect started this morn from cold and it was like a dream. Feels like a car with 6k not 60k but out seems to be at that mileage where these issues crop up.

Ive warned the dealer that i'll be getting it checked over my a specialist when thy have sorted it to get a full report (RR in bury do one for £75).

Hope it's sorted soon as it is a very nice car and I don't have gearbox funds if it goes out of warranty!!

All sorts of gremlins can cause it to go into limp mode, not necessarily related to the gearbox at all. It could be something as simple as a camshaft sensor!

When the gearbox is on it's way out it will usually give other symptoms, such as delayed shifts, clunky shifts, etc. It it drives perfectly then goes into limp mode, it sounds more electrical than mechanical to me.

It'll be due a gearbox oil change anyway, but I very much doubt that this would fix your problem.

First thing is you need your fault codes read, then you need to establish if the fault is related to gearbox, engine, LPG conversion or other.

One other thing it could be is the battery, see if you can find out how old it is, if it's a Land Rover battery, it should have an indicator, if this is black rather than green, you need a new one. Batteries can cause all sorts of problems when they are on their way out. Did the problem occur at light load on the motorway whilst cruising, with radio and aircon on?

Anyway, welcome to Range Rover ownership, not easy, but worth it!  Range Rover-less at the moment - Pining!

When you say it wouldn't leave third gear - did it pull away in third too? Or was it just sticking to the lower gears?

Reason I ask is that when the box overheats it maintains low gears to 4,000RPM or something crazy. I had this whilst coming back from wales in the hills with some "enthusiastic" driving. As yours was fine after it cooled down my bet would be on this.

I also had a bad battery that meant if I started the car with the headlights on, I would get a gearbox error and it would pull away in third until I restarted. Did you get this issue after leaving your lights on whilst picking ur bro up? 

I didn't have any lights on when restarting I'd just come off an hour or so motorway driving so don't think I flattened the bat. I was driving alot in traffic thru Leeds. It seemed to hold onto the gears a bit too much thinking back. Over 4-5k revs before changing.

I've checked the bat and it's a black and red one it does seem very new it has no power gauge on it so presume it's a replacement. I wasn't driving enthusiastically steady 60 all the way and just slow revs in town.

It pulled away in 1st and second but was holding onto the gears too long. Like I say over 4-5k (12-1 o'clock on the revmeter). Third was as far as it would get but with it over revving doesn't seem like safe mode thinking about it??

Sammyg1413 wrote:

I didn't have any lights on when restarting I'd just come off an hour or so motorway driving so don't think I flattened the bat. I was driving alot in traffic thru Leeds. It seemed to hold onto the gears a bit too much thinking back. Over 4-5k revs before changing.

I've checked the bat and it's a black and red one it does seem very new it has no power gauge on it so presume it's a replacement. I wasn't driving enthusiastically steady 60 all the way and just slow revs in town.

It pulled away in 1st and second but was holding onto the gears too long. Like I say over 4-5k (12-1 o'clock on the revmeter). Third was as far as it would get but with it over revving doesn't seem like safe mode thinking about it??

If it is sticking in the low gears up to 4-5k then it is in cooldown mode - as doccumented in the workshop manual.

Get your gearbox oil changed (every 50K, has it ever been changed?)

Get your engine coolant changed. There is an oil-water heat transfer unit that can get clogged. When was your coolant last changed? 

I've only just bought the car so don't know any history. I've not yet received the history it's on its way (I only purchased car on condition I for the s/h if not they have agreed to return the car). It was a part ex at one of their stratatone dealerships so the owner has yet to hand in s/h but has been done upto 50k at LR then last service at specialist.

I doubt gearbox oil has been changed but I presume coolant was as it had a major service at a cost of 600+ in June. But I it does sound like cooldown mode like u say. If so shall I get EH to do the coolant, trans oil and filters??

Thanks for ur help guys I do appreciate it

Sam

Sammyg1413 wrote:

I presume coolant was as it had a major service at a cost of 600+ in June.

You're not familiar with Land Rover dealers then!?

Several members have has the full service done yet they've not even replaced the air filter!

Just because the books been stamped doesnt mean the stealer has done the work - it's a shame, but its reality. 

So it's every aspect of LR which is bad by the sounds of it! Just wonder where Land Rover would be if BMW didn't rescue them with the L322!

I've come from Audi and had 2 from new, they were spot on in every way and both were as new after 50k. Maybe should have stuck to zi Germans!!

I will get EH to change the coolant nd bits like u advise. Is there any way of checking the coolant to see if its fried?

You can get a pipet type tester from halfrauds to test it. I would get it changed anyway. Where abouts are you? Someone might be local who can help. [img]http://www.fuelly.com/driver/rob2529/range-rover[img/]
04, 4.4V8, Vogue Oslo Blue with LPG.
"You can sleep in your car, BUT you can't race your house!!!!"

If something can't be fixed with a hammer....... You have yourself an electrical fault!