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dan_uk_1984



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stu wrote:

will go anywhere a FF will go off road too!!



Ha Ha. Ah ha ha ha . HA. HA HA!

Ahem. I mean, Oh right, really?

Sheep 

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HUGI



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@stu it was I think a V6 3L Diesel

it wasnt slow but it was quite expensive for what it had. (once I drove a 2.5L Diesel and that was really rubbish)

and when I asked if they could change some stuff and add some bits and they quoted me the price I was shocked..

I really like on the Range Rover that there isnt every bit additional.

For example: the touareg had a nice nav/sound system. I asked about bluetooth.. Oh well,if this car is ready for it will cost 500$ to retrofit it.. if it doesnt have the wiring it wont be possible.. Rear view cam.. Was not there.. Retrofit? We dont know if it is possible....

For the Range Rover SC (which is a Vogue) I knew I only had to choose the colour that I like it will have more or less all the bits I want.


And i dont like the styling from the pre 07 Touaregs too much. For me a RR is much more classier.

I have to be honest, I'm not a very big fan from german cars. I prefer cars like: Land Rovers, Bentley,Jag,Lamborghini.
Very Happy my father wants to buy a Porsche 911 black edition for himself. Censored I would be happier if he buys an Aston, a Jag or a Bentley which would fit his age better Laughing

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Got to admit i do fancy a supercharged.

if i went petrol it would be a proper one... Laughing 2004 black Vogue TD6

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dan_uk_1984 wrote:
stu wrote:

will go anywhere a FF will go off road too!!



Ha Ha. Ah ha ha ha . HA. HA HA!

Ahem. I mean, Oh right, really?

Sheep


One thing to remember is that all Touaregs (and Cayennes) have a lockable centre diff, which the pre-facelift L322 didn't have.

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scarey wrote:
alanm_3 wrote:
scarey wrote:
please dont do this dan, i'm wanting a s/c even more now... Big Cry


Well Stan, as I've said a few times on here - mine is always available at the right price! Thumbs Up


if i could ,i would mate but i've got no money .. Big Cry


Who needs 2 kidneys anyway, when 1 is plenty! Thumbs Up Got - 2017 SDV8 Autobiography in Loire Blue
Had- 2008 TDV8 Vogue SE in Java black
Had - 2007 S/C in Stornoway Grey

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dan_uk_1984



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Trommel wrote:
dan_uk_1984 wrote:
stu wrote:

will go anywhere a FF will go off road too!!



Ha Ha. Ah ha ha ha . HA. HA HA!

Ahem. I mean, Oh right, really?

Sheep


One thing to remember is that all Touaregs (and Cayennes) have a lockable centre diff, which the pre-facelift L322 didn't have.


I beg to differ...

Range Rovers have had automatic locking (limited slip/torque sensing) centre diffs since 1989! One of the reasons they have always been the best on road off roader. 

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Trommel wrote:
MICK wrote:
it was the sales guy at the time i bought mine that told me to do it


How much had he been drinking?


Yeah didn't see a difference it's still a rocket.

Physics is a wonderful thing but it's great when the butt dyno disagrees. 2.5t shouldn't move that well.

Made a chav in a 2.0tdi A5 look very sad today when he was right up my ah$e. REALLY want a 5.0

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dan_uk_1984 wrote:
I beg to differ...

Range Rovers have had automatic locking (limited slip/torque sensing) centre diffs since 1989! One of the reasons they have always been the best on road off roader.


The pre-2006MY L322 centre differential in the NVGV225 transfer box is a Zexel Torsen T-2/Type B, so yes, torque-sensing (it can distribute torque within the range 65/35 front to rear, or vice versa), and limited-slip BUT they only have a 50% locking effect, as a maximum, and like any Torsen, if there's no resistance on one side of it, it's just like an open diff.

You're relying on the traction control after that.

Post-2006, the RR has a Magna-Steyr DD295 transfer box/diff (as do the D3, D4 and RRS) which has a computer-controlled multi-plate clutch.

P38 and post-1989MY original had a viscous centre diff.

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alanm_3 wrote:
scarey wrote:
alanm_3 wrote:
scarey wrote:
please dont do this dan, i'm wanting a s/c even more now... Big Cry


Well Stan, as I've said a few times on here - mine is always available at the right price! Thumbs Up


if i could ,i would mate but i've got no money .. Big Cry


Who needs 2 kidneys anyway, when 1 is plenty! Thumbs Up


so mine and one of my kidneys for yours... Laughing

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scarey wrote:
alanm_3 wrote:
scarey wrote:
alanm_3 wrote:
scarey wrote:
please dont do this dan, i'm wanting a s/c even more now... Big Cry


Well Stan, as I've said a few times on here - mine is always available at the right price! Thumbs Up


if i could ,i would mate but i've got no money .. Big Cry


Who needs 2 kidneys anyway, when 1 is plenty! Thumbs Up


so mine and one of my kidneys for yours... Laughing


I wouldn't know wether to saute it or put it in a pie! Whistle Got - 2017 SDV8 Autobiography in Loire Blue
Had- 2008 TDV8 Vogue SE in Java black
Had - 2007 S/C in Stornoway Grey

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Laughing

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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Tonga Green

Yes, so they all have a locking diff. OK never a 100% lock, but that is rarely needed - and can lead to other issues in itself.

Then as you say you are relying on the ETC to do the rest of the work for you - again a very capable system. Certainly never had any problems in deep mud or extreme snow in my 2003's.

I will be intersted to see how well the electronic locking diff works on mine - fingers crossed for another harsh winter (sorry pensioners, you get a free bus pass - I can afford to heat my house Razz) 

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Quote:
[quote="stu"]Hugi.. which touareg did you drive? i have come from Touareg to FFRR, i can honestly say that it is a very very good car in my opinion.

very well equiped, and very powerful.

will go anywhere a FF will go off road too!!


Shocked are you on drugs?

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stu wrote:

will go anywhere a FF will go off road too!!

No.

I can accept any of your other statements but this is simply wrong.

I'm not even going to start arguing locking diffs or articulation - just pick up any off road mag from 2002 on and read the off road tests. The RR always excelled. The Touareg (nice car, no doubt) is a SAV. Period.

And this has nothing to do with any silly pride in the marque or the like.

No. 
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P38, and 2 L322s
(wife thinks I'm nuts - prob right, too)

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I really doubt that a touareg with 20" rims and standard tyres would have been there where I was with the Range Rover without any problems!

You can all check the pictures in the offroad section. I think I was at a place where it is a place for offroad cars not for SUV and SAVs.

I have to admit I was really pleased how good the rangie performed up there. If there havent been soo many hitchikers I would have drove up the Aigulle Croche which would have been really the top. But I have to say the path which I took back from the station of the chair lift wasnt easy and I'm sure a ordinary car would have had troubles there.

So I think a RR is like a swiss army knife. Suitable for every thing. You can turn up at a 5 star resort or you drive up where no normal car can and it always perform well.

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