Baben wrote:

In the 2010+ it is plug and play - it was designed as an option, just never installed

I thought this still had to be coded with a faultmate MSV

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allisong wrote:

I have a 2007 Range Rover with heated steering wheel so do not have the additional circuits available through the "clock spring" as JLR call it, BUT studying the wiring diagrams I could see that the heated steering wheel wiring has a seperate ground and 12v supply wire (from the ignition) to the normal steering wheel switches. This is to allow it to be fused seperately I guess.

Normal swiches are off a 5 amp fuse and the steering heating off a 10 amp fuse. SO by using the ground and supply wires for the heated steering wheel only (wiring the normal switches across to this supply on the steering wheel side) I was able to free off two tracks from front to back to use for the paddle shifts. Makes the 5 amp fuse redundant and the 10A fuse is large enough.

Hence you CAN fit paddle shifts to older cars with a heated steering wheel with the existing hardware - no need for RF remotes etc. Much easier!

According to the wiring diagrams the 2007 is still iBus (called DS2 bus in IDS), no CAN to the steering wheel until 2010 with the new buttons etc.

Ajay(UK) wrote:

Baben wrote:

In the 2010+ it is plug and play - it was designed as an option, just never installed

I thought this still had to be coded with a faultmate MSV

Andy.

Baben wrote:

Ajay(UK) wrote:

Baben wrote:

In the 2010+ it is plug and play - it was designed as an option, just never installed

I thought this still had to be coded with a faultmate MSV

Andy.

Yes. So that means plug n play to me, ie no hardware modification required. You plug in the paddles and tell the car they exist, and they work

Ah so not plug and play for most since a faultemate MSV costs the best part of £1000 unless you can find someone with a multi-vehicle licence which for 2010MY is probably rarer than an uncooked steak

I think this mod can wait

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still not with you? plug n play means its easy. I never said it was cheap

a trip to an indi should sort that part out for around £50  "RANGEISM WILL NOT BE TOLERATED"
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Baben wrote:

still not with you? plug n play means its easy. I never said it was cheap

Our opinions of what is classed as "plug & play" must differ then as I have always felt that to be plug and play you just plug it in and it works - such as upgrading a tv tuner from analogue to digital.

Having to then hook up a faultmate MSV (or equivalent), read the CCF, find the correct section and change the option to say paddle shift is fitted, save and rewrite the CCF, for most does not constitute plug and play. An easy job to retrofit the paddles - agreed - but its a bit more than plug and play.

pretlove - I also have reservations as to an indi having a 2010MY licence as why would they need one yet with all vehicles still under warranty? I am happy to be proved wrong though

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OK you win

good point ajay i could check with my indi for you but the only problem is he is based in essex "RANGEISM WILL NOT BE TOLERATED"
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pretlove wrote:

good point ajay i could check with my indi for you but the only problem is he is based in essex

It would still be worth a call as you never know there maybe a few 2010MY owners that might want flappy paddles

Essex is not too far - just not a regular stomping ground for me

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ill give em a bell tomorrow for you and see what he says  "RANGEISM WILL NOT BE TOLERATED"
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there are other reasons (apart from paddles) for me buying a faultmate with a 2010 license.

Stuff the dealers can't (or won't ) do:

1) daytime driving lights enable/disable
2) service indicator enable
3) nav on the go (although I cant get this working yet )
4) alarm chirp on
5) modify TPMS settings (so far with little effect )
6) because I actually use my vehicle offroad in countries in Africa where there is no support available

had some time over the weekend so i thought i would go back and tidy up the paddle shift change install, when i started it with matt it was more trile and error to get things wright, it was soon apparent that the wires could not be added to the slip ring so we had to go with the idea of the wireless way,
my install was a little messy and used the battery supplied, i wanted to hard wire it and remove the battery and find,what had been a prob for a few people including my self the best place to put the tx with out damaging it.

i used a plug so i could if needed unplug the tx unit, left the black ground wire loose so i could fix it to ground via a screw

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tidy job daveo  "RANGEISM WILL NOT BE TOLERATED"
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