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zxrjohn14



Member Since: 01 Feb 2025
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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Barolo Black
problem with a TD6 advice needed

I'm currently having a nightmare with 3 of these cars, all L322, 2x3.0 and a 4.4
This one is the most annoying though:
2004 Black 3.0 TD6 turns over and won't start, we have changed everything on this now,
crank sensor
cam sensor
injector loom 5
the whole ECU kit
HP mechanical pump
checked wiring loom as taking all the bits out
Has 40 MegaPascals of pressure at the rail (400 bar or nearly 6000psi)
280 cranking speed on live data
starts on brake cleaner but only runs whilst getting the whiff
had a noid light in the coil plug and getting signal in all 6
Am now at a loss on what else to change.
It doesn't seem to smole out the exhaust when turning over, and i thought it was a fault on the ecu and not firing the injectors, but its exactly the same with a running cars ecu and stuff.
Question
any ideas?
what's left?


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Post #711068 4th Feb 2025 9:12pm
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Joe90



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Have you done a leak test ?

"coils" ??? Do you mean glow plugs or injectors ? .
Experience is the only genuine knowledge, but as time passes, I have forgotten more than I can remember Wink
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Post #711077 4th Feb 2025 10:25pm
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zxrjohn14



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Barolo Black

leak off test done and less than 10ml per injector while cranking quite a few times with metering tubes fitted.
over half a tank of fuel in it
everything is there to make it start and i can't figure out what else to change or do

Post #711083 5th Feb 2025 8:45am
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zxrjohn14



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double post

Post #711084 5th Feb 2025 8:51am
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zxrjohn14



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Joe90 wrote:
Have you done a leak test ?

"coils" ??? Do you mean glow plugs or injectors ?

yes injectors... i work a lot on petrol engines and have go to words, i suppose.
I'm old and the brain doesn't work like it used to.

Post #711085 5th Feb 2025 8:55am
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Joe90



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Any codes being thrown up ? .
Experience is the only genuine knowledge, but as time passes, I have forgotten more than I can remember Wink
Volvo V70 P2 2006 2.4 Petrol 170bhp Estate SE
MG Midget Mk1 1962

Previous: L322 Range Rover TDV8 3.6 2008; L322 Range Rover TD6 3.0 2002; P38A Range Rover V8 1999

Post #711088 5th Feb 2025 9:47am
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D3Jon



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Had a similar issue with my early (2002) 4.4 M62 V8 Petrol L322.

It cranked, had good fuel pressure at the rail - but wouldn't start no-matter what. Also, no fault codes logged at all.

It would run on Ezy Start, so not ignition related. Although I changed the crank position sensor as a precaution - that didn't help!

It'd been stood a while and the battery had previously gone totally flat, so strongly suspected the issue was related to the BMW immobiliser system stopping the injectors from firing, but letting it crank. This might be where your issue is?

In my case, I never got to the bottom of it, before I sold it for absolute peanuts, as I lost interest and needed the room...

Hope you have better luck, or more persistence than me!

Jon 1992 RR Classic 3.9 efi Vogue
2014 Disco 4 HSE
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Both my fatties now gone...
Previous: 2011 L322 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE /// 2002 L322 4.4 V8 HSE /// 2009 Discovery 3 2.7 TDV6 XS /// 2004 Defender 90 TD5 /// 1993 110 V8 Snatch Landrover /// 2005 Discovery 3 2.7 TDV6 SE (Aus) /// 1990 110 Isuzu 3.9 County (Aus) /// 1976 Series III Trayback (Aus)

Post #711094 5th Feb 2025 11:53am
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zxrjohn14



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Joe90 wrote:
Any codes being thrown up ?

None what so ever. even on a proper LR scanner

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Haylands



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You don't mention you have changed the fuel filter, I take it you have...??

Can't remember but does it have an inertia switch in case of accident which may have tripped...

Worksop Manual in the WIKI has a good description of the fuel system if you haven't seen it... Thumbs Up Pete
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Post #711161 5th Feb 2025 8:12pm
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zxrjohn14



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brand new filter.

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zxrjohn14



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Haylands wrote:
You don't mention you have changed the fuel filter, I take it you have...??

Can't remember but does it have an inertia switch in case of accident which may have tripped...

Worksop Manual in the WIKI has a good description of the fuel system if you haven't seen it... Thumbs Up


The ineria switch stops the fuel pumping and this one has a healthy flow of fuel

Post #711163 5th Feb 2025 8:17pm
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zxrjohn14



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Barolo Black

Haylands wrote:
You don't mention you have changed the fuel filter, I take it you have...??

Can't remember but does it have an inertia switch in case of accident which may have tripped...

Worksop Manual in the WIKI has a good description of the fuel system if you haven't seen it... Thumbs Up


I have to ask... what's the WIKI??

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Weegie



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Top of the screen same box as the two cars shown. Red print WIKI is a forum compendium of information. John
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2005 TD6 Java Black Vogue - Written off!!
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zxrjohn14



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thank you

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bobsin



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2004 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Epsom Green

I had similar issue on my otherwise reliable 2004 TD6, just would not start. ran on ezy start, or wd40, 1st time starting. went back to basics. solved it.
There was petrol in my tank. The garage MUST HAVE mis-fuelled THEIR tank. Had my receipt for diesel, paid diesel price. So, pumped it out, (my petrol mower runs on it now), changed fuel filter, put some DIESEL in it, starts 1st time again. Just a cautionary tale, could it be your fuel?

Post #711184 6th Feb 2025 12:17am
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