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Barmybrummie



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Santorini Black
I didn't know, did you?

Having my 2011 4.4 for the last few months, I've only just found out that when you apply the handbrake when waiting at lights, junctions etc etc, you don't need to manually release the handbrake when you are ready to move off. Just touch the accelerator and it automatically releases it for you and off you go. Who'd of thought eh? I love finding out new things on the fatty that I never knew about.

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ajac8



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Works on a hill start too. Thumbs Up 405 AB exec seats Baltic and Cirrus
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Barmybrummie



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Santorini Black

That's exactly how I found out, being in the valleys full of hills. Put handbrake on a steeple hill junction, forgot I put it on as I was there a fair bit and accelerated to pull out and it moved off with no bong. So I tried the same again at some lights and thought what a result.

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mjdronfield



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

I like to take it off manually, just me….. the car has a feature where if you come off the foot brake it holds pressure for a bit so you can get on the throttle without rolling back. That’s separate to the hand brake, but that prob does a similar thing to. Some clever stuff going on, most of which is probably to assist off roading.

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GraemeS



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Australia 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Bournville

Not just you who prefers to release the park brake manually.
The hill-start hold feature is specifically for use such as taking off from the lights.

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Barmybrummie



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Santorini Black

I didn't even know it had hill hold feature either until you guys told me. I just thought it was the characteristics of it being an auto of not rolling. I have been using the auto release since I found out it can do it. Am I just being lazy not moving arm to do it myself? Rolling Eyes

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mjdronfield



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I’m not keen on that little time period where you press the throttle and the handbrake is still on. I’m sure it’s fine and can also work that way, as indeed does, but I don’t like keep doing it. In the same way that when I park up, I put the handbrake on with my foot still on the brake, gearbox into N, foot off brake (weight of car settles on handbrake) then I select P. I don’t like the weight of the car hanging on the gearbox, as it were…. But then I’m a bit set in my ways 🤣. Some folks just use P and never use the handbrake, not for me….

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2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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JMC



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Sorry to appear like a smart ass, but I've known this for sixteen years!

The 3.6TDV8 was the same, so it's not just the later cars.

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Barmybrummie



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Santorini Black

That's exactly what I do too Mj, like you I always put it in neutral then handbrake on. As I park on a slight incline outside the house I'm rather sure it will do it the world of good not resting on the gearbox in park. I always put it in neutral when I'm stationary at lights etc etc too. I was told many years ago by a very old school mechanic who did classic car restorations namely jaguar E-types, to put it in neutral when you are stationary so there's no unnecessary force on the gearbox, that was his number one rule with autos.

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Barmybrummie



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So only now you just tell us this info JMC lol? Anything else we should know about that you know that we don't? Laughing

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Barmybrummie wrote:
Anything else we should know about that you know that we don't?

Orkney Grey is the best (and fastest) colour. Whistle

Black interior outlasts all the others.

Removable towbar isn't removable if left attached for years.

3.6 Vogue seats are the most comfortable.

GAP tool is essential glovebox accessory for 4.4TDV8

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Haylands



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Barmybrummie wrote:
So only now you just tell us this info JMC lol? Anything else we should know about that you know that we don't? Laughing


Please leave a list of what you don't know and we will try to help..... Rolling Eyes Laughing Pete

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Barmybrummie



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We could be here all day if I did that haylands Laughing

There something else I've found out too, mine has follow me home reversing lights too. Now that's very handy.

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PeteT80



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Santorini Black

If you have the handbrake on and the door is open it won’t automatically release.

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GraemeS



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Australia 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Bournville

Barmybrummie wrote:
I always put it in neutral when I'm stationary at lights etc etc too.
If you're using the brakes at the same time for any length of time then you're risking failure of the gearbox selector module. There's a 1 ohm resistor in the circuit for the rotory selector motor that is used to determine if the motor is drawing current by checking the voltage drop across the resistor. The resistor overheats if power is applied for too long, melting its solder which then stops the selector motor from working. The solder will crystilise if it almost melts then sets again which increases the resistance in the joint which causes the joint to overheat more quickly next time it starts to get hot.

Neutral + brake pedal needs to be for only short periods.

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