I'm running around in a low-mileage 2017 VSE, quite happy with it, does everything I need it to do etc but fancy a change. Had a quick look on the LR Approved Used site and there are just 23 AB/VSEs between the years 2018-21 and only 41 across all variants. I seem to recall the last time I looked 12-18 months ago and there were substantially more than that. My local dealer, Marshall Newbury, only has two 405s in stock.

I'm guessing there are one or two factors at play, tanking used prices due to security issues making them harder to shift and concentrating on the L460, but I'm still surprised at the low numbers. 2017 Vogue SE
Citroen 2cv
Ferrari F430 F1 Spider

My guess...
MDs tend to have cars 5years old or less. So thats 2years of 405 and 3 of 460. Also the last two years of 405 were badly hit by covid and the parts shortages. They didn't make/finish many and sales took a big hit. Just not so many around. I've not checked, but if you look on somewhere like Pistonheads and Autotrader going back a few more years before 2020 I expect there will be loads about. Mike - MPx

2017 5.0 V8 Supercharged SVAutobigraphy Dynamic SVO Palette Grey (2021-...)
2012 5.0 V8 Supercharged Autoboigraphy Orkney Grey (2017-2021)
2007 4.2 V8 Supercharged Vogue SE Tonga Green (2012-2017)
2002 4.4 V8 Vogue Bonnatti Grey (2008-2012)

Interesting points, I hadn’t really considered those. Trouble is I’m after a facelift and there’s weirdly not that many around in the colour combination I want which is a light interior with a dark exterior (not black). 2017 Vogue SE
Citroen 2cv
Ferrari F430 F1 Spider

Spleen wrote:

I'm running around in a low-mileage 2017 VSE, quite happy with it, does everything I need it to do etc but fancy a change. Had a quick look on the LR Approved Used site and there are just 23 AB/VSEs between the years 2018-21 and only 41 across all variants. I seem to recall the last time I looked 12-18 months ago and there were substantially more than that. My local dealer, Marshall Newbury, only has two 405s in stock.

I'm guessing there are one or two factors at play, tanking used prices due to security issues making them harder to shift and concentrating on the L460, but I'm still surprised at the low numbers.

I just bought a 2021 AB from a dealer (Sytner in Maidstone). He said that the scarcity of late L405s was all down to COVID - production apparently dropped a cliff and as soon as the L460 was announced people waited it out. The production run out (mainly Westminster models) probably went more to private buyers due to the better discounts available to shift them before the new model arrived. Those buyers might hold onto it for longer than 3 years… meaning that there’s even fewer coming to market.

It should drive prices up then, but watch them fall after the Budget in a few weeks time.
If you are looking to buy I would wait till after the budget. 2018 SE SDV8 4.4 Byron Blue

Looking at Howmany left the number of RR taxed has kept constant at circa 90,000 but the number Sorned has jumped by 10,000 since 2019. New vehicles registered dropped by 30% between 2018 and 2021.

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/family/land_...ver#newreg 2012 tdv8 Westminster arrived Jan 19 gone Dec 23

200 TDi discovery bobtail gone
RR classic v8 bobtail gone
300 tdi Discovery 3 dr gone

Interesting to add in the number stolen over 8,200 in 2021 and 2022 ….probably explains that jump in Sorned 2012 tdv8 Westminster arrived Jan 19 gone Dec 23

200 TDi discovery bobtail gone
RR classic v8 bobtail gone
300 tdi Discovery 3 dr gone

A good many got popped into a container, or simply driven onto a RORO ferry and are now in Africa.  1992 RR Classic 3.9 efi Vogue
2014 Disco 4 HSE
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Both my fatties now gone...
Previous: 2011 L322 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE /// 2002 L322 4.4 V8 HSE /// 2009 Discovery 3 2.7 TDV6 XS /// 2004 Defender 90 TD5 /// 1993 110 V8 Snatch Landrover /// 2005 Discovery 3 2.7 TDV6 SE (Aus) /// 1990 110 Isuzu 3.9 County (Aus) /// 1976 Series III Trayback (Aus)

DaveBL405 wrote:

I just bought a 2021 AB from a dealer (Sytner in Maidstone). He said that the scarcity of late L405s was all down to COVID - production apparently dropped a cliff and as soon as the L460 was announced people waited it out. The production run out (mainly Westminster models) probably went more to private buyers due to the better discounts available to shift them before the new model arrived. Those buyers might hold onto it for longer than 3 years… meaning that there’s even fewer coming to market.

the L460 are coming down - 2022 are c.£70k now, with past discounts of 3-12% on autotrader. they will go down further when the new diesel tax hits

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2...mp;fromsra

Bit leggy that one at 70k miles though. 2017 Vogue SE
Citroen 2cv
Ferrari F430 F1 Spider

Mild thread drift but I was looking online last night for a 2017 Vogue SE with around 52k miles (for this is mine) to gauge how much I might get for it and I found ONE example at £36k. I know mine is relatively rare (and I don't mean exclusive) as it fell between 2016 and 2018 with the ICP update prior to the facelift but even so. Very surprised.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/326248785692 2017 Vogue SE
Citroen 2cv
Ferrari F430 F1 Spider

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Spleen wrote:

Bit leggy that one at 70k miles though.

pounds not miles

The ad has gone but it had just over 70k miles hence the low price at £70k. 2017 Vogue SE
Citroen 2cv
Ferrari F430 F1 Spider