Following on from this thread,

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic32392.html

anyone contemplating converting their auxiliary sockets to ignition control from being permanently live may find this useful.

HOW TO CONVERT REAR LUGGAGE SPACE AUXILIARY SOCKET TO IGNITION CONTROL.

This applies specifically to 2002-2005 cars although the principle should be the same for later cars.

Materials : 12V 4 pin 30A relay, 2m of 20A cable, 2m of 5A cable, various spade connectors, cable connectors, insulating tape, heat shrink insulation or self amalgamating tape as you feel happy with.

The first thing you need to do is remove Fuse 7 on the rear Fuseboard to isolate the rear aux socket.
Might be worth checking the socket is dead at this point.
As an additional precaution it may be worth disconnecting the battery -ve terminal depending on the degree of confidence you have in carrying out the work.

The next thing to do is to remove the aux socket / loadspace light assembly from the carpeted panel.
To do this you put a wide flat blade under the front edge of the surround, ie the edge nearest the front of the car and pull, the assembly should pop out intact.
As per photo below.

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Nice write up NDFI  John
2008 Stornoway Grey 3.6 Tdv8 Vogue
2005 TD6 Java Black Vogue - Written off!!
GAP iiD BT
2003 Discovery TD5 Auto, Nanocom Evolution - gone to a new home!
MasseyFerguson 152 - No electronics!! - Sold

put in wiki Dave  ... - .- -.




Y. O. L. O.
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^ Ta

Just did this conversion.

Works great! Even for someone with very little electronical knowhow, like me...
Thank you! 2002 L322 V8

Hello, I've bought a beautiful 2005 Range Rover Vogue Diesel - its just such a fantastic beast. I added a simple Bluetooth to FM adaptor but the front cig lighter stays on all-the-time, so I can't keep it plugged in for fear of draining the battery.

So I want to undertake this modification, which I believe I can pull off without too much issue. Just a few quick questions for those who have done it...

- is disconnecting the battery necessary? I don't want to cause more problems with the clock, etc if I don't have to.
- I just want to affect the 3 front aux power outputs, so I believe that I pull Fuse 1 and do the wiring as described at the end of the instructions - does that one 12VDC 30Amp relay handle the power for all three sockets?
- when I tap into yellow/green ignition operated cable, should I just peel back a bit of cable sheath to expose copper so I can join it there? Or is it better to actually cut the cable, and use a wire nut to reconnect and splice into it? That cable is completely 'dead' when the car is off correct?
- how do you mount the relay? I believe the one I'm buying on Amazon has a little screw hole, maybe just screw it in above the board? There is an old DVD player etc in there too, so I'm not quite sure where to put it actually.
- is there anything really dumb I can do here to break my Vogue? Anything I should watch out for?

Thanks so much for the help everyone, SD

Welcome to the forum.
Can l just clarify, the modification l detailed is only applicable to the rear luggage space auxiliary socket and is not practical to use to modify the 3 front sockets you refer to.
The front socket you refer to is actually a cigarette lighter as per Land Rover.
The socket in the cubby box is actually an auxiliary socket as per Land Rover.
The rear cabin socket is actually a cigarette lighter as per Land Rover.
The rear luggage space socket is actually an auxiliary socket as per Land Rover.

Land Rover in there wisdom chose to designate 2 sockets cigarette lighters and 2 sockets auxiliary sockets and chose to wire them on separate circuits.
Generally the cigarette lighters are permanently live with the auxiliary sockets ignition controlled but not always.
For some markets LandRover chose to wire them differently.
From what you describe your car appears to be wired like mine, cigarette lighter sockets are permanently live with the auxiliary sockets ignition fed.

Is you are using a plug in blue tooth adapter the easiest way to use this is simply to fit an additional auxiliary socket fed from an ignition controlled fuse on the front fuse board.

I have an additional ignition controlled socket fitted as per the photo below.

I hope this is of some help to you.

Thank you very much for your kind reply.
Our Vogue is from England, right hand drive, and it appears that all four sockets are always-on.
An idea spot for the bluetooth-to-FM transmitter would either be in the front near the shifter or in the cubby.
How do I modify the wiring to either of those sockets to be ignition controlled?

Thank you again, Andrew

Have you a picture of the Bluetooth transmitter you are using.
Have you also got a picture of the rear fuse board and the relays above it.

Yes. It should be pictured here. Essentially if I plug this into the socket near the shifter it remains on all the time. I’d love to rewire this socket, or the socket in the armrest to be ignition controlled!

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You might be in luck.
If you go to the rear fuse board in the drivers side rear side compartment you will see some relays below it as per the picture below. If so what is in position 1?

It appears to just be a jumper of some sort, pictured below. There also appears to be a relay in the bottom left position which is not the same as the diagram.

It is indeed a jumper which is why your 2 cigarette lighter sockets are permanently live.
Take the relay out of position 2 as per my diagram and fit it in position 1 in place of the jumper.
If l am not mistaken your two cigarette lighter sockets should now be ignition controlled. ie the front one and the one on the rear of the centre console.
If it works you need a 4 pin 30A relay to fit in position 1 permanently so that you can put the relay from position 2 back in place.
You can leave the temporary relay in place for now if you wish, all you have lost is the rear heater fan for now.

Thanks so much for this, Is it ok to just pull the relays and jumper out with the battery still connected? Also, it appears there is an extra relay in the bottom left position, should I try that one for position 1 and leave the seat heaters relay where it is? See picture below…

Pull the jumper and reposition relay 2, you don’t need to disconnect the battery. Nothing untoward will happen, l just tried it on my own car with no issue.
Relay 2 serves the rear blower fan.
I don’t know what the bottom additional relay serves, my car doesn’t have that. I would leave well alone for now.