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Mistercorn



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Replacement / recon engine needed...

My 2010 L322 4.4 TDV8 had an issue with the coolant, it was completely full of oil. I've taken it to my local specialist and he has advised me that isn't something simple like an oil cooler and that basically the engine is toast. So I need either a good secondhand engine, with warranty of some kind, or a company who can supply a decent recon engine.
I'm based in Nottingham. Any help appreciated.

MC

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mjdronfield



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Is the engine running “ok”? 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

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Mistercorn



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It was running. I started it and saw a 'low coolant warning' On checking the coolant I saw oil around the coolant tank and when I took the lid off more oil came out. I then started and ran the car to get it on the trailer to have it removed.

MC

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mjdronfield



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That is what happens when the oil cooler issue gets ignored.

If you have no other symptoms, get the oil cooler changed, the coolant flushed many times and the oil changed…

Ask me how I know 🤣.

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1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
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mjdronfield



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 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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Mistercorn



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He did say when I dropped it off that it could be the oil cooler or it could be something more serious on the engine, and he is saying that it is the engine. I have asked for confirmation that he has removed and tested the oil cooler though as it did look similar to that.

MC

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mjdronfield



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I’d want a bit more info than that, as you say. If it was driving fine, I can’t see it being engine. The oil cooler is a heat exchanger and passes the coolant next to the oil. They mix when the seal goes or the oil cooler warps…. Oil is a pretty good coolant, so you prob won’t notice anything in the short term.

Unless he can show you something concrete, I recon it’s oil cooler issue been left too long.

Has it only just done it? When did you last see coolant in the coolant? What’s the mileage?

Think mine was done at 83k.

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2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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Mistercorn



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Not seen oil in the coolantl before, car is on 115k and I've owned it since 49k. Oil heat exchanger hasn't been changed in that time. It was last in the garage a few months ago for a new water pump.

MC

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mjdronfield



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Caught it in time then I’d say….

Unless he shows you something specific…. New oil cooler and flush the coolant…

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Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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Agree with MJ! I'd put money on it being the oil cooler gaskets. I suspect your mechanic is either not up to speed with these engines, or is potentially trying to pull a fast one..... Shocked The older I get, the more I realise that people confuse wrinkles for wisdom Smile

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Oil in the coolant is not a terminal condition. The oil runs at higher pressure than the coolant so highly unlikely coolant has got into the oil. Take off the oil filler cap and check for 'mayonaise' Nearly everyone here with a TDV8 4.4 will have had or done an oil cooler seal replacement. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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mjdronfield



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The cooler itself can warp or crack too. I’d change that and the seals. No need to worry about it then…

Still interested to know what your garage have found if they think it’s more serious.

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Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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When my heat exchanger went on mine it took JLR three days to get the oil flushed out of the system, I think it cost me around £800 Big Cry should be less from an Indie

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Mistercorn



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He did say the engine isn't OK. I'll get more details tomorrow. He only works on Range Rovers and Land Rovers so he does know them extremely well.
Might look to sell as is and buy a newer one. I don't want to be without it for ages.

MC

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mjdronfield



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See what he says tomorrow then.

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Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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