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Davlyn



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Brake fluid change

Can’t seem to find a wiki for a full brake fluid change for the L322. Does anybody know if this is a diy job or does it require specialist machinery and specialist know-how?

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Changing the brake fluid is almost exactly the same as bleeding the brakes, the only slight difference being that you keep bleeding a particular wheel until the new fluid is expelled. You will know as soon as the new fluid comes through by the obvious clean colour. The only thing you have to be careful about is not letting the fluid level in the reservoir drop too low.
My procedure,
All done with car on the ground.
Ring spanner over bleed nipple, length of clear plastic tube onto nipple, empty dog food can to collect expelled fluid.
Get assistant to press hard on brake pedal and hold, release brake nipple until brake pedal goes to floor. Hold pedal down and close nipple. Repeat until new clear brake fluid is evident.
Repeat on all other wheels
Make sure to check brake fluid level regularly.
I recently did mine, took about 20 minutes. Thumbs Up

Post #629140 19th Apr 2022 6:20pm
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Davlyn



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Thanks guys. All seems straightforward enough.

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When we did the L322 we used SDD which purged the ABS module which also directed you in terms of the sequence, not sure if it made a huge difference using SDD but the modules didn’t half make a racket.

The advice above is a time honoured tradition when it comes to bleeding brakes etc I remember pressing the peddle for my old man and my other half loathes to do it for me today, although I recently did my lotus with a
Easy bleed kit which made life easy as you don’t need the assistant. Sold - Bell a 2015 MY16 Loire Blue Autobiography 4.4 SDV8
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KurtVerbose



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From dhallworth in his thread

dhallworth wrote:
I sat my Dad in the car and put him up in the air on the ramp. I then used the IID tool and followed the instructions on which caliper to bleed and when. It was running the pump on the ABS block too whilst Dad was pumping the pedal.

The instructions on the IID tool said open the bleed nipple on the caliper and pump the brake pedal and it had a timer counting down. Strange when it went past 0 and started counting - numbers though.

The sequence on the IID tool is different from the one in the workshop manual so once the IID tool had finished I went around the car again and did them all manually according to the manual just to be sure.

I had the front wheels on when I was using the IID tool and through the spokes on the wheels I could only access the front bleed screws on the front Brembo calipers so when I did it manually I did the rear half too. Amazing how much air is in the back half of the caliper when the front half is bled!

Pedal feels lovely and solid on it now. Thumbs Up


You can't just bleed the brakes in a conventional way as there is fluid in the ABS circuit that also needs to be flushed out.

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Caesium



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The ABS circuit is the same circuit as the service brakes. All the ABS pump does, is interrupt the pressure to the wheel that has lost traction.

As long as the reservoir has not run dry, you can bleed the brakes with the "pump the pedal" method just fine.

The only caveats are to move the pedal slowly in either direction and for older cars don't go al the way to the floor or it CAN invert the seals. Highly unlikely but there is s remote possibility.

I did my brakes this way and they are operating just as expected. Christian.


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Post #629187 20th Apr 2022 9:10am
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Davlyn



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Thanks guys. Great support as usual.

Post #629189 20th Apr 2022 9:50am
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dhallworth



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The only reason I used the IID tool for mine is because the circuit had been completely drained down.

When I was doing work on the car the cling film over the master cylinder didn't work, the glove over the end of the brake pipe burst and I had a puddle of brake fluid on the floor and an empty reservoir.

The sequence instructed by my IID tool wasn't the same as what was in the manual so I did it both ways. Pedal feel now is fantastic Smile

Any problems, shout! You can guarantee someone has been there before.

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knwatkins



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I use one of these when bleeding or flushing the brake fluid...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-VS820-Clut...B000ROARTI

I find it's much easier on my ears as I don't have to put up with the wife moaning that her leg is aching!

Highly recommended. Kev

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Post #629195 20th Apr 2022 10:41am
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dhallworth



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Ahh! Someone whose used one!

How do you find them? We bought a vacuum operated one that goes on the compressor in the shed and is meant to suck the fluid through the system but we've never had much luck with it so I've been reluctant to buy another one to try. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
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knwatkins



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I love it and would never go back to old, traditional method of pumping the brakes. I've used it on a few cars now including my old L320, my current L405 and my wife's little BMW.

I removed all of the calipers on the L405 for 48 hours whilst I painted them and the fluid completely drained out of the system. The pressure bleeder did a great job of pushing the new fluid through. Kev

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dhallworth



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Great - thanks Smile

One to add to my arsenal of tools then!

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Caesium



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knwatkins wrote:

I removed all of the calipers on the L405 for 48 hours whilst I painted them and the fluid completely drained out of the system. The pressure bleeder did a great job of pushing the new fluid through.


You need one of these...


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Calliper was off for a couple of days and no fluid lost. Christian.


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knwatkins



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I did consider clamping them but was worried about damaging the rubber. Were yours all okay afterwards? Kev

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