Big injustice in my view.

Best analogy I can think of is 2 football teams level on points at the end of a long season are playing each other in the last game. One team is 5-0 up with 5 mins to go. After a stoppage, the ref decides that it's next goal wins!

Agree that Verstappen would have been a petulant child had he been in Hamiltons shoes.

K

LOL some of the comments on here are hilarious. Remember there has been a whole season of this, if they wanted a clear win they should have performed better all year round, which they didn't. It is also a team sport, not just a driver, there are a 1,000 people supporting a team. They just choose a strategy that didn't pay off, I'm sure it is frustrating for the team with clearly the faster car (like magic) but they played that strategy as well, and took the hit. If they played it one race sooner it wouldn't have been a winner take all situation.

All actions have consequences. I'm just glad the better man won.

It will be interesting to see how far Mercedes are prepared to take this. For me, I would like to see Mercedes win an appeal but then to say that they don't want the outcome of the chamionship changed. This would show true sportsmanship and would establish that race control were wrong in their decisions. Even better would be if RBR supported Mercedes' appeal, after all it could so easily have been the other way around and it would have been just as wrong. Drives:
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Anyone who suggests that Lewis should have pitted for fresh tyres under the safety car doesn't understand F1 - Merc had absolutely no choice but to leave him out.

Similarly suggesting that RedBull has some sort of smart plan / tactic is also plain wrong - they did the only thing they could - they had already effectively lost and had nothing further to lose.

The key for me is to remember that F1 isn't really a sport - it's an entertainment business - and is headed the way of WWF etc.

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LOL some of the comments on here are hilarious. Remember there has been a whole season of this, if they wanted a clear win they should have performed better all year round, which they didn't. It is also a team sport, not just a driver, there are a 1,000 people supporting a team. They just choose a strategy that didn't pay off, I'm sure it is frustrating for the team with clearly the faster car (like magic) but they played that strategy as well, and took the hit. If they played it one race sooner it wouldn't have been a winner take all situation.

All actions have consequences. I'm just glad the better man won.

What I don’t understand is why the lapped cars between Max and Carlos and all the way back were also not allowed to uncap themselves. I don’t believe it should have been turned into a 2 horse race, but Carlos should equally have been allowed to race Max.

Shambolic.

Over the course of the season the best driver was 11 seconds ahead with Red Bull saying "We need a miracle' ... which they got courtesy of 'Race Control' changing their mind and letting the back markers through to overtake the safety car. If the boot had been on the other foot, Mr Geri Halliwell would've still be screaming like a banshee this morning.

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Bl4ckD0g wrote:

LOL some of the comments on here are hilarious. Remember there has been a whole season of this, if they wanted a clear win they should have performed better all year round, which they didn't. It is also a team sport, not just a driver, there are a 1,000 people supporting a team. They just choose a strategy that didn't pay off, I'm sure it is frustrating for the team with clearly the faster car (like magic) but they played that strategy as well, and took the hit. If they played it one race sooner it wouldn't have been a winner take all situation.

All actions have consequences. I'm just glad the better man won.

Most of these hilarious comments are yours.

"They just choose a strategy that didn't pay off" -- Red Bull were losing, they had no choice and were forced in every change.
The better Man/Driver had built up a lead that RB could not compete with.

If the role was reversed MV would have taken LH out on that last lap, we all know that.

The better Man/Driver refused to lower himself to Mad Max's standards and emerged the true winner.

Respect--Lewis, something MadMax will never have.

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There is no such thing as the true winner, there is only one winner and points count. Just like Max had more wins yet Lewis had the same amount of points. It is what it is...

Hahaha childish comments....

Bl4ckD0g

Can you genuinely say that you believe how the race ended was a fair result.

I mean if it was me and you down the snooker Hall and you was winning 90-15 but the ref said next ball wins to which I do and win, would you feel happy handing your range rover over too me.

Course you wouldn't. It's not about the whole race, it's all about how inconsistent the FIA have been. Lh has gained/lost,MV has gained/lost over the season but even when you look at max you can get the sense he knows he didn't win the race fairly as the excitement level aint there for him

Some 'interesting' comments on here....

Alistair got it completely correct when he said 'Anyone who suggests that Lewis should have pitted for fresh tyres under the safety car doesn't understand F1 - Merc had absolutely no choice but to leave him out.'

Michael Masi is a complete joke, I guarantee he will not be Race Director next season as teams will pull out.

Per the FIA's own rule book, all of the lapped cars should have been allowed through.

But instead Verstappen gets a free run at Hamilton in front of him, whilst Sainz has lapped cars between him and Verstappen - WHY????

Ferrari should be protesting, the Race Directors actions potentially cost them a better result than 3rd

Entirely because the Race Director did not follow the rules and made it up as he went along, Verstappen is protected from any challenge from behind AND gets a free run at Hamilton, who was basically a sitting duck on much older tyres

Had the rules been followed, all of the lapped cars should have been waved through - this would have taken longer, well into lap 57

Article 48.12 states "once the last lapped car has passed the leader, the safety car will return to the pits at the end of the following lap" - lap 58, which would have meant Hamilton winning as the race only restarts once the cars have crossed the line (which in this case would have been the end of the race)

The FIA assertion that article 48.13 (once the message 'safety car in this lap' has been displayed, it is mandatory to withdraw the safety car at the end of that lap) overrides article 48.12 is a joke - the instructions are supposed to be applied in order at the right time - do that and they all make sense. There is nothing in the sporting regs which give precedence to one clause over another, they are meant to be applied in the order set out in the regs!

Decisions this year have been a joke, especially the two lap 'race' under the safety car in Belgium which gifted Verstappen a seven point advantage over Hamilton

F1 is no longer a sport, I will go back to watching rallying
I hope Mercedes pull out, cant see anyone watching then.... 2007 Zermatt Silver TDV8 Vogue SE - now sold but was a great car!

Unless masi gets the boot is suspect a few of the main teams may pull out the competition as there's no consistency. What would have happened of it was say vettel in 2nd place against Hamilton. You can stick money on it would have finished behind the sc

F1 Sporting Regs (LOL given it is no longer a sport!) can be found here https://www.fia.com/regulation/category/110

From 48.12 - "Unless the clerk of the course considers the presence of the safety car is still necessary, once the last lapped car has passed the leader the safety car will return to the pits at the end of the following lap"

I dont see anything about just letting a couple of lapped cars through to provide a 'spectacle' for TV......

Nor do I see anything which gives precedence to 48.31 over 48.12 2007 Zermatt Silver TDV8 Vogue SE - now sold but was a great car!

Teams won't pull out in a huff - it's a business as much as a sport. All this is generating lots more publicity which is most likely part of the intention.

The teams have something like >500 employees and hundreds of millions in turnover - its a serious business and you don't just pick up your ball & go home. Sure, 1 or 2 individuals may decide their time has come, but someone else will step up & fill the void.

Wasn’t there a proposal from Ferrari a while ago to set up a new race competition in lieu of F1 as they objected to the budget constraints?