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t5pete



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4.4 tdv8 rear sump bolt

Does any one now the purpose for the rear sump bolt as the cross member is in the way for draining.


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Thank you

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Baltic Blue



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The 4.4 tdV8 was specifically designed as a “top down maintenance car” ,
Forget draining the sump from the bottom and use the suction tube from the top.
It is so much easier, cleaner and quicker.
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
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t5pete



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I understand that Mike but as land rover call it "mini sump" I would like to know its purpose as there's a main drain on the side and this which I questioned too.

Also having a ramp of my own I prefer to drain properly/fully rather than a suction pipe, don't get me wrong they have designed it that way but my preference is gravity will always win.

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Baltic Blue



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I appreciate your preference Pete..
I was never a fan of sucking oil out, but having seen how much I get out and reports from Nino whose opinion I respect greatly.
He sucked his out then went further and removed the 2 sump plugs but only got out an extra couple of spoonfuls, so, each to his own.
Cheers
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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It’s a drain for turbo pipe I think. Drain it when you drop the oil from main drain. Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
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t5pete



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Thank you Rob I'll see how much comes out on the next oil change.

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mpirie



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I have to admit to being a convert to sucking the oil out too now.

Having said that, I still open up the rear sump plug to make sure I get all the old oil out.

Mike

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matthews



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As previously mentioned it's a drain for the turbo return , drain it at every oil change as it can eventually sludge up and cause turbo oil starvation (very expensive ) as the hot oil can't return to sump , same for 3.6's too , I suck the main sump dry with suction pump then drain the turbo return (a bit messy as it dribbles onto crossmember ) , standard Ford type sump plug and o ring seal , only a couple of quid so replace with a new one .

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mpirie wrote:
I have to admit to being a convert to sucking the oil out too now.

Having said that, I still open up the rear sump plug to make sure I get all the old oil out.

Mike


I always do exactly this. Having tested it there is only a tiny amount left in the main sump once suctioned out. If you think about the oil elsewhere in the engine that will not all drain out (and the fact there is 10 l in there anyway!!) it is nothing to worry about.

I do drop that rear one though as it seems like a good idea to make sure fresh oil flows through the turbo drain. Probably not needed but it makes me happy lol

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I have been monitoring the oil dilution rate since I downloaded the latest iid software.
It’s gone from 0 to 0.8 in the 2k miles I have managed between lockdowns , but given that 7 is quoted as the max level and the fact I change it twice a year under normal driving use, the small amount left in compared to the 8.5 litres of clean new oil flowing through a new filter element each time can’t possibly be much of a problem.
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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