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bigbo



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Location: Derbyshire
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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Buckingham Blue
Rust

After finding levels of rust that I thought did not happen to cars post about 2000, I have found rust on my car which I think is totally unacceptable for the year. Something I have mentioned before, but after spending many hours reading the workshop manual during lockdown I found the following.....

All steel panels are double zinc coated.
During production, vehicle bodies are treated with the following anti-corrosion materials:
Anti-Corrosion Materials
A heat cured, Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) based sealant is applied to specific joint seams during factory assembly
A PVC based underbody sealer is sprayed onto the underside of the main floor pan and rocker panels, the exterior of the spare wheel well and the forward face of the lower dash crossbeam
An application of cavity wax is sprayed into various body sections


If this is all true then we should not have any corrosion issues, I'm not sure what to say but I can see no signs of zinc coating or any signs of cavity wax any where on my car. Range Rover 4.2 Supercharged 2006
Ford Focus EcoBoost 1.5 2017
MG TF 2003

Previous Cars of note
Land Rover Discovery 2
Jaguar Mk2 3.8 - Company car
MG Midget 1974 - Concours

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fanders



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United Kingdom 2009 Range Rover Autobiography 4.2 SC V8 Buckingham Blue

There was clear evidence of cavity wax having been applied to my 4.2SC when I inspected/rust treated the sills and rear arches last winter, but I can't say for sure that the wax residues I found were factory-applied or had been done after build.

Dribble of cavity wax on one of the sill holes (these get plugged by a plastic plug):



Borescope view inside the left sill showing wax coating (light brown area, blue stuff is paste adhesive):



Needless to say all areas on mine, inside the sill and outside on the sills/rear arches got a healthy douche of cavity wax and grease, and will be inspected annually during winter maintenance.

fanders ---------------------------------------
2009 4.2 SC Buckingham Blue
2021 Hilux 2.4

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jaysta10k



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United Kingdom 2014 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Santorini Black

The rear arches on the L322 are crap and everyone I have owned or seen has had bubbling near the join to the bumper and bubbling around the arches! The inner door arch also suffers and so does the lower cill. I have had mine treated waxed etc etc etc but I now have an issue again on a car this was immaculate with now rear arch present. these cars are crap supposed to be 4X4 off road worthy well the body panel are worthless if they can withstand the UK weather. Also the boots leak and so do the rear quarters frying all your electrics just for good measure happened to me also!! NEVER BUYING THIS MODEL THE L322 AGAIN I WILL BE GOING BACK TO THE SPORT.... Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 SDV8 SVO Stying Pack
Audi A4 2.7 TDI S Line Black Edition phantomn black
Previous Cars
Range Rover Vogue SE Overfinch Styling 22" Elara's full black stealth colour coded
Java black Range Rover sport 2.7 TDV6
Alaska white Range Rover sport overfinch 3.6 TDV8
BMW M3 Carbon Black

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dingg1



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2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Stornoway Grey

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stan
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another happy customer Thumbs Up ... - .- -.




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jaysta10k



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United Kingdom 2014 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Santorini Black

😂😂 All we ask for us something that doesn’t rust and fill up with water!! Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 SDV8 SVO Stying Pack
Audi A4 2.7 TDI S Line Black Edition phantomn black
Previous Cars
Range Rover Vogue SE Overfinch Styling 22" Elara's full black stealth colour coded
Java black Range Rover sport 2.7 TDV6
Alaska white Range Rover sport overfinch 3.6 TDV8
BMW M3 Carbon Black

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mjdronfield



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

It’s such a shame. Worst thing about ownership. I’ve not seen X5’s or Sports with rust outside....

Or even Discovery 2’s..... 3’s...... 4’s.....

Rolling Eyes 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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dennij



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Buckingham Blue

Not sure why, if you were so disappointed with a car and it's quality you would buy more of the same

And why stick with a brand you say produce poor quality products?


"The rear arches on the L322 are crap and everyone I have owned or seen has had bubbling near the join to the bumper and bubbling around the arches! The inner door arch also suffers and so does the lower cill. I have had mine treated waxed etc etc etc but I now have an issue again on a car this was immaculate with now rear arch present. these cars are crap supposed to be 4X4 off road worthy well the body panel are worthless if they can withstand the UK weather. Also the boots leak and so do the rear quarters frying all your electrics just for good measure happened to me also!! NEVER BUYING THIS MODEL THE L322 AGAIN I WILL BE GOING BACK TO THE SPORT...." 2011 TDV8 Vogue SE

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jim4244



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England 2005 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Zambezi Silver

It’s all just a small part of the rollercoaster ride that is owning and running a Land Rover / Range Rover vehicle....😂

Jim

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stan
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not all FF's rust, i had a TD6, 4.2 SC, and a 4.4 TDV8 westie and none of those had rust problems.. ... - .- -.




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Post #565536 26th Aug 2020 9:57am
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Joe90



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Neither do (real e.g. not Ford) Volvos Wink Thumbs Up .
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Volvo V70 P2 2006 2.4 Petrol 170bhp Estate SE
MG Midget Mk1 1962

Previous: L322 Range Rover TDV8 3.6 2008; L322 Range Rover TD6 3.0 2002; P38A Range Rover V8 1999

Post #565546 26th Aug 2020 11:36am
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400-ascona



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United Kingdom 2005 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Java Black

Agreed. My 1998 V70R is rust free however I do remember my Dad having a 240GLT with rust issues.

I also have a 4.2SC with rusty rear arches! Is there a write up anywhere where someone has cut out the rust and welded in new steel?

Rob 05 L322 4.2SC
2016 Discovery 4 Graphite
Lotus Carlton
Ascona 400
Volvo V70R AWD manual
Suzuki 1200 Bandit
Velocette Venom
BMW R80/7
Daimler V8 250
Mini Cooper S Works 2006

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AJGalaxy2012



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Bonatti Grey

My L322 was awful compared to my much older Touareg. Land Rover design and build quality is shockingly bad for a car of this market position. The front subframe had extensive corrosion (I dealt with it but it was not good), all fastenings around the car were rusty, brake pipes corroded through.
For very little money the misc fastenings around can be stainless, brake pipes use kunifer 10 which doesnt corrode. A little more thought and appropriate protection the corrosion issues could be overcome, surely galvanising could be done as done by many competitors.
Theres no excuse for Land Rover for a vehicle at this price point. BMW i3 Electric Car
2012 Full Fat RR 4.4 TDV8 (now gone)
2006 VW Touareg 3.0 TDi V6

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dennij



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Buckingham Blue

I have to agree with the idea of galvanising a car that sits in the market place that it does. Audi & Porsche used to do this as standard. From what I've seen it's a simple dip treatment so could easily be added to the current process. 2011 TDV8 Vogue SE

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AJGalaxy2012



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Bonatti Grey

And they really must make serious profit at the prices demanded for Range Rovers, not exactly short of financial headroom. BMW i3 Electric Car
2012 Full Fat RR 4.4 TDV8 (now gone)
2006 VW Touareg 3.0 TDi V6

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