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Ragingrover



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Pre Oil Leak fix advice

My 4.4 TDV8 is leaking oil and has the smell of burning too, especially when it’s just stopped, so assuming oil feed pipe at top rear has passing O rings. I’ve ordered some Viton ones so all should be good there. However I’m conscious the oil cooler can leak too and it does look a bit grotty in that area from what I can see so was going to get the gaskets and do that as well.

The question is, is there anything awkward or scary in removing the plastic intake doughnut off the top first, it looks like a right pain but not having removed this before, maybe not. Anyone got any advice or a “how goes it” before I start the day of loud swearing ??? 😉

Thanks

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Fox889



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There are several threads on here that'll take you through the process, there's a certain pipe that has an offshoot pipe that is easily broken & is expensive to replace, but, just look back & there's loads of advice for you.
Had my oil cooler replaced by an Indy, 4.5 hrs so that'll give you an idea of what the job entails. 2012 Orkney Grey Westminster 4.4TDV8 with Ivory interior.........nice!
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The little pipe is No3a in the link. Also look out for the connection at 3 as it can be difficult to remove of you haven't got a plier which is mad efor the job.

https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic48780.html

If you are doing the donut, change the four small outlet hoses unless you are certain they have been changed. Clean all the sensors you remove and it's a good idea to clean the throttle butterfly and the donut too. The whole job is a fairly straghtforward one as Fox says, but take your time. Cheers
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Make sure the 4 doughnut hoses are the updated thicker ones. These are the updated ones. Much thicker side walls than original ones. Original ones are thin as Censored

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QuebecTango



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Have recently done mine, it looks worse than it is. No 3 in the link the plastic fitting that clips into the bracket “crumbled” when I removed it & that bit only comes with the thermostat housing & associated pipes, anticipated 150 quid but turned out to be around £40 - inconvenient though also, as well documented, the piece going into top hose is delicate! Did the cooler gaskets not expensive & not difficult once your in there. Instructions in wiki just the job
Good Luck

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Ragingrover



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Thanks all !! I did find lots of useful info on Wiki, if only I'd seen it when I searched first, so sorry for asking you to repeat yourselves.
As for the task it seems like I need to do some investigating and order some parts in advance.

In regard to the small water pipe connection that will enevitably break, what is that pipe assembly called ? Does anyone know the part number ? Failing that I'll ask Duckworths, they'll know a poor description lol

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I'm not sure of the name of the bit at 3a, but top hose comes to mind and if you speak to Advanced Factors Paul he'll soon set you right, (as I hope Duckworths would if you phone or email. Seems no point using the link on here as others have found).

The bad bit about 3 is that the connector comes with the right angled connector and the hose connector on seperate part assemblies. IIRC the angled connector comes as part of the top hose including 3a. The bit it connects to is on the hose and 'stat cover and pipes. It's not available as a seperate item. That said I did search on ebay and found fuel hose connectors matching it, but ordered from Dan when he was at Duck's due to time constraints.

Hope this helps. Cheers
Richard

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Be very conscious that the open oil orifices exposed when the oil cooler is removed supply unfiltered oil to the rest of the engine, either directly or via the oil cooler and any contamination could result in a replacement engine being sought. Cleanliness is critical.

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Ragingrover



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I got my Viton seals for the rear pipe today so that jobs for tomorrow. Whilst I'm up close in the engine bay I'll see if that oil cooler is a current problem. Given it seems I'm likely to need additional parts before I tackle the oil cooler, I'll leave it till I'm confident I've got everything to hand. This car is my daily driver (well it was given the current situation!)

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rjff



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R

Would you mind posting where you sourced the viton o-rings? Cheers
Richard

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Ragingrover



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ebay, try this link:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Imperial-Viton-...2749.l2649

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rjff



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Thanks R

Veery kind Thumbs Up Cheers
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Ragingrover



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Thats the O Rings done

Just done the two O Rings and yes its an easy but slighty awkward job, if that makes sense ? My only additional piece of advice is.... when trying to refit the insert into the casting i.e. "push it back in" with the new seals, do your best to keep the insert square onto the casting. Because the only puchase or grip you have is on a shaped and bent pipe its very easy to push at an "off" angle. Initially I got a bit worried I wasn't going to get it to fit but then pushing the pipe away from yourself at the same time pushing into the casting and "POP" it goes quite easily !

As for the oil cooler, its a bit grotty oily from what I can see, very little to see unless you take it all apart but it seems nothing fresh or wet looking. So I'm going to Jizer the oily bits down as best as possible without causing new troubles with electrical connectors and see what happen in a week or so.

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