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M@r]{

Member Since: 03 Nov 2019
Location: Northants
Posts: 165

2012 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 V8 Barolo Black

0w-30 vs 5w-30 Oil - 4.4 TDV8

I like to carry around a spare litre of oil in the car, so just went on to Opie Oils, who have a black Friday sale, to stock up. However, when I put in my reg number they list out 5w-30 oils. But on the oil cap in the engine bay it clearly says 0w-30?

So which should I go for? 0w will be thinner at cold temps than 5w, will it make that much difference? I'm leaning towards following LR guidelines and going for 0w, but interested to hear other views.

Mine is a 2012 TDV8

25th Nov 2019 10:53am

Baltic Blue

Member Since: 13 Aug 2015
Location: North Wales
Posts: 3764

2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Baltic Blue

The drivers handbook states 5-30 C1 spec. oil and I have always used Shell Helix Ultra 5-30 AF-L from Opie with no problems.
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic56162...tty+affair

25th Nov 2019 11:50am

kooky_guy

Member Since: 25 Nov 2011
Location: Sandhurst, Berkshire
Posts: 385

2010 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Stornoway Grey

I've wondered what I should get for a top up - I've not needed to top it up yet, but I don't like the idea of being caught on the hop. Any specific recommendations for a 4.4 tdv8?

My previous BMW apparently needed a particular formulation (not that it did it much good as it still suffered tappet failure). Is the RR the same, or will any old decent oil of the correct spec do? 2010 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE

26th Nov 2019 7:44am

DrRob

Member Since: 16 Apr 2015
Location: Petersfield, Hampshire
Posts: 4301

2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Use the Shell Helix spec as above
Opie oils sell it.
I have a small 1L in the boot of some I got from Advanced Factors a while back. Not Shell but in spec and there for non planned top ups. Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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26th Nov 2019 7:48am

DrRob

Member Since: 16 Apr 2015
Location: Petersfield, Hampshire
Posts: 4301

ADV914 Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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26th Nov 2019 7:50am

DrRob

Member Since: 16 Apr 2015
Location: Petersfield, Hampshire
Posts: 4301

https://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/service-...-168-c.asp Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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26th Nov 2019 7:50am

northernmonkeyjones

Member Since: 24 Mar 2012
Location: derby
Posts: 8503

2016 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Santorini Black

Always used shell helix aF-L in mine with no problems. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
FFRR 4.4 SDV8 Autobiography Santorini Black.
Fiat 500x 1.4 multiair Lounge 2015
2010 LR D4 Commercial 2.7 TDV6

26th Nov 2019 6:26pm

Cam-Tech-Craig

Member Since: 03 Aug 2011
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 16281

2015 Range Rover SVAutobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Oil type on ALL 4.4TDV8's & 3.0TDV6 is absolutely critical people... The oil needs to have all the correct letters & numbers after it! Its imperative

26th Nov 2019 11:21pm

kooky_guy

Member Since: 25 Nov 2011
Location: Sandhurst, Berkshire
Posts: 385

Thanks Craig,

That's what I was worried about. So do the oils linked above have the correct letters and numbers?

Or can you suggest something?
[/quote] 2010 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE

27th Nov 2019 7:31am

Baltic Blue

Member Since: 13 Aug 2015
Location: North Wales
Posts: 3764

Click image to enlarge

She’ll helix AF -L as per the picture definitely does meet the spec, but you need to be VERY CAREFUL when buying, because they sell so many similar looking containers with different specifications, but ONLY AF -L will do.

Craig is spot on in saying it is critical.

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Mike G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic56162...tty+affair

27th Nov 2019 8:50am

Fox889

Member Since: 04 Jun 2019
Location: Bury St Edmunds. Suffolk
Posts: 683

2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Orkney Grey

Keep an eye on Opie's website, hopefully Opie will have a 'special' on black Friday, 20% would be nice! 2012 Orkney Grey Westminster 4.4TDV8 with Ivory interior.........nice!
Alfa Romeo Giulietta
Just one Montesa now, 349 White Wonder
Austin A40 Farina MK2
1975 Morris Marina 1.8TC

27th Nov 2019 9:53am

Cam-Tech-Craig

Member Since: 03 Aug 2011
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 16281

kooky_guy wrote:
Thanks Craig,

That's what I was worried about. So do the oils linked above have the correct letters and numbers?

Or can you suggest something?

[/quote]

It states the exact oil type in everyone’s service books... For clarity, I suggest you take a pic of that page and make 100% sure when purchasing, that the oil matches perfectly what it asked you in your book sir...👍

I ordered a large amount of oil in when ECP has a deal on... The manager at our local branch sent us FOUR!!! shipments assuring me “this one is right” apologising each time!!! Two of them were incorrect Shell Helix! Before they found the correct one at twice the price!

27th Nov 2019 10:04am

M@r]{

Member Since: 03 Nov 2019
Location: Northants
Posts: 165

Here you go, photo from my Owners Handbook. I am wondering, what is the AF-L you refer to?

27th Nov 2019 10:44am

rjff

Member Since: 28 Oct 2017
Location: Cambridgeshire
Posts: 1196

2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Santorini Black

From Shell's website, spec for said oil for the 4.4

https://www.shell.com/motorist/oils-lubric...5w-30.html

See the WSS spec.

(Even they get the picture wrong, AR-L) Cheers
Richard

(there are no such things as an ordinary FullFat, an ordinary cat or too many tools)
2011 TDV8 Vogue Santorini Black
Gap IIDBT

27th Nov 2019 10:54am

DrRob

Member Since: 16 Apr 2015
Location: Petersfield, Hampshire
Posts: 4301

All the Advanced Factors oils specified for the 4.4 TDV8 with DPF meet WSS-M2C934-B.
All are coded ADV914 on their site for simplicity.
I have 1L of one in the car as a just in case.

Shell Helix meet same WSS-M2C924-B spec if you look on Opie Oils site.
Currently 15% voucher too Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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27th Nov 2019 11:09am

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